Well, my Dad might be up for murder!

Helen said:
Don't be so ridiculous :rolleyes:
The majority of burglaries/house breakings are just that, they enter to steal property not harm / murder people!!
You have a very naive black and white view on things, what’s to say he doesn't have a starving family at home too feed or has a horrible drug addiction? Does someone deserve to die for this?

Unless your dad was genuinely in fear of his life then I hope he gets banged up for murder and the key thrown away! Civilized society has no time for pathetic and over the top vigilante 'justice'.
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:rolleyes: x 100000

Pathetic post.
 
Personally i think your dad did the right thing. As the man of the house he did what he had to do to protect his family and his belongings. Hopefully he will get away with it.

If i was armed and two people broke into my house i would do the same thing.

Let us know how he gets on mate.
 
Mephisto said:
:rolleyes: x 100000

Pathetic post.
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If you think that people should have the right to murder someone for simply breaking into their house why not move to another country that allows this sort of barbaric behaviour?
They also chop peoples hands off and still stone people to death in many of those country’s but hey at least you'll be able to blow someone to pieces if they so much as think about touching 'your property' :rolleyes:
 
Sorry I haven't read all the pages, but were the guys black, and your dad white?
Just curious from a S.A. point of view - I'm going no further with it! :)
 
Helen said:
what’s to say he doesn't have a starving family at home too feed
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Then he should do what everyone else does and go out to work and earn the money to pay for his family to eat.

Helen said:
or has a horrible drug addiction? Does someone deserve to die for this?
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Yes, dirty thieving smackheads should die! This is South Africa we're on about, not England, and as such the thieves are on a totally different level to our scumbags!
 
Azagoth said:
Then he should do what everyone else does and go out to work and earn the money to pay for his family to eat.



Yes, dirty thieving smackheads should die! This is South Africa we're on about, not England, and as such the thieves are on a totally different level to our scumbags!
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Yeah because it's as easy as that :rolleyes: Especially in certain areas of S.A.
You come across as a very ignorant and un-empathetic person!

As I said if he was genuinely in fear for his or his family’s life then he did the right thing, however if it was a Tony Martin scenario where they were fleeing when confronted then it's straight out cold blooded murder and he should be punished accordingly!
 
Helen said:
Yeah because it's as easy as that :rolleyes: Especially in certain areas of S.A.
You come across as a very ignorant and un-empathetic person!

As I said if he was genuinely in fear for his or his family’s life then he did the right thing, however if it was a Tony Martin scenario where they were fleeing when confronted then it's straight out cold blooded murder and he should be punished accordingly!
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Then i must also be in the same class as Azagoth (very ignorant and un-empathetic) - i dont have a gun (never fired one in my life) however i do own a crossbow and if anyone broke into my property i woudn't think twice about shooting them !

In this day and age in our once "Great" Britian there's far too many idiots out there who have no respect for other peoples property or lives - if this me making a stance to protect what i've worked hard to achieve (my home) then so be it - i'll deal with the consequences later !
 
Helen said:
Don't be so ridiculous :rolleyes:
The majority of burglaries/house breakings are just that, they enter to steal property not harm / murder people!!
You have a very naive black and white view on things, what’s to say he doesn't have a starving family at home too feed or has a horrible drug addiction? Does someone deserve to die for this?

Unless your dad was genuinely in fear of his life then I hope he gets banged up for murder and the key thrown away! Civilized society has no time for pathetic and over the top vigilante 'justice'.
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Ok Helen... so if his dad had of tried to reason with thewm and they had stabbed him or shot him to death would that make it alright... because then at least he would have given them a chance. Given them their er... human rights? Get a clue, if multiple people come into your property in a place known for violent crimes then you take swift and decisive action to protect yourself and your family.

If you choose to break into someones home, to rob them of what they have worked all of their lives to acquire then you must accept the consequences. Your view is typical of someone who live sin their fluffy cloud castle and has never been subject to anything of the sort.
 
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Woah, good job your in SA, someone was locked up over here for doing something like that (latter got off on an appeal of diminished responsibility).
Personally i shoot now and ask questions later, probably not aim for the chest or head but a leg or some place that's probably not going to kill them, if they don't want to get shot don't come in my house simple as.
In this day and age in all countries you don't know who you are dealing with, you go ahead, warn them try make a noise scare them off, let them know where you are so they can stab/shoot you quicker, i will put a bullet in the knee :D
 
Helen said:
As I said if he was genuinely in fear for his or his family’s life then he did the right thing, however if it was a Tony Martin scenario where they were fleeing when confronted then it's straight out cold blooded murder and he should be punished accordingly!
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Just stop posting.....are you seriously saying that your brain can process something as bad as confronting two burglers this quickly! First off, how does he know whether these "Burglers" dont have guns themselves and secondly, the adrenline of someone breaking in would stop your brain from thinking "Wait a tic, shall i wait n see if there leaving!", personally i would have done the same thing. Straight up shot at them as soon as i saw them!
 
Helen said:
If you think that people should have the right to murder someone for simply breaking into their house why not move to another country that allows this sort of barbaric behaviour?
They also chop peoples hands off and still stone people to death in many of those country’s but hey at least you'll be able to blow someone to pieces if they so much as think about touching 'your property' :rolleyes:
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How do you know the person breaking into your house isn't a crazed psycho? That he's going to kill your husband, rape then kill your children then finally rape and kill you?

Are you going to ask him- "Excuse me are you going to nick my VCR, or going to mutilate me?"
 
If someone broke into my house I wouldn't stop to ask them why they were or about what life problems they may or may not be having because I have a family and a home to protect. If I was alone with the children then I'd do whatever it took to get rid of them and if my husband was home then so would he. I wouldn't risk getting hurt trying to restrain people and then my children possibly getting hurt as well, you just never know what people are going to do and seeing as they broke the law by coming into your house you know they are up to no good.

What about the stress and fear the victims will feel and go through after being subjected to a break in? Why is everything geared torwards the "poor" criminals these days?

I used to be a lot more liberal in my views but as I've got older I've changed.
 
Richdog said:
Ok Helen... so if his dad had of tried to reason with thewm and they had stabbed him or shot him to death would that make it alright... because then at least he would have given them a chance. Given them ehtir er... human rights? Get a clue, if multiple people come into your property in a place known for violent crimes then you take swift and decisive action to protect yourself and your family.

If you choose to break into someones home, to rob them of what they have worked all of their lives to acquire then you must accept the consequences. Your view is typical of someone who live sin their fluffy cloud castle and has never been subject to anything of the sort.
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In that case he would have been in fear of his life and like I said he would have done the right thing. My argument is that people should not have the ultimate right to kill if someone simply sets foot on their property!

If someone was running away and posed no threat would it have been acceptable to shoot them dead??? From many of the replies here it seems a lot of people think this is acceptable which I find repulsive tbh.
 
Thermaltake said:
Just stop posting.....are you seriously saying that your brain can process something as bad as confronting two burglers this quickly! First off, how does he know whether these "Burglers" dont have guns themselves and secondly, the adrenline of someone breaking in would stop your brain from thinking "Wait a tic, shall i wait n see if there leaving!", personally i would have done the same thing. Straight up shot at them as soon as i saw them!
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What, it doesn't take much processing to realise if someone is runing towards you or running away/flee'ing!
 
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