They oppress themselves though they're to blind to see it. Like I said in an earlier post, I don't think it's any coincidence they harbour the beliefs they do and find themselves living in a dive of a country.
'Muhammad' teddy teacher arrested
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They oppress themselves though they're to blind to see it. Like I said in an earlier post, I don't think it's any coincidence they harbour the beliefs they do and find themselves living in a dive of a country.
To me It wouldn't reflect good on Islam I beleived these protesters are representitive of every muslims opinion which I'm sure they are not.
Things that reflect well on islam are never or very rarely reported, I've just googled Islamic charieties and the 1st entry I found was http://www.islamic-relief.com which to be honest I've never heard of. Also you hardly hear of the work carried out by the Red Cresent, which works alongside the Red Cross.
However what they are doing, and what the cartoon protestors did, was protest in the name of Islam. So personally, no, I don't think it relects well on Islam. Especially when you consider many other bad things done in the religions name.
You are right that the good that Islam does is not reported, but this isn't some western plot against muslims but more the fact that the good of most agencies is never reported.
I'd love to know how much aid they get from us..in food and financial aid
screw the lot of them I would be tempted to say..you would think they would worry a bit more about the hundreds of thousands dying in their country..
to be calling for her execution just firms up peoples pre-conceptions about this sort of thing..no doubt a good flag burning going on as well..where DO they get them from??!
screw the lot of them I would be tempted to say..you would think they would worry a bit more about the hundreds of thousands dying in their country..
to be calling for her execution just firms up peoples pre-conceptions about this sort of thing..no doubt a good flag burning going on as well..where DO they get them from??!
Another thing is that extremists use innocent mistakes like this as a base and reason for their attacks. Why do they bomb us? Because innocent naive ladies like this teacher are going around calling teddy bears Muhammed. Honestly. There is a real agenda from these people. I would say it's jealousy.
What they are doing and what the cartoon protesters did is voice their own personal opinions, they not speak with any authority on behalf of Islam. Thats one of the things that makes my blood boil when you see reports on Osma Bin Laden calling for muslims to fight. Who the **** is he to demand anyone fight on the behalf or Islam?
To me this doesn't reflect badly on Islam, it reflects badly on the morons who go round getting their Bhurkas in a twist over the slightest little thing.
Another point I'd like to add is this which is taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7121025.stm
The Federation of Student Islamic Societies (Fosis), which represents more than 90,000 Muslim students in the UK and Ireland, said it was "deeply concerned" at what was a "gravely disproportionate" verdict.
The federation's president, Ali Alhadithi, said: "What we have here is a case of cultural misunderstandings, and the delicacies of the matter demonstrate that it was not the intention of Gillian Gibbons to imply any offence against Islam or Muslims.
This goes further to re-enforce that the morons screaming and shouting are no way represntitive of Islam and there are muslims who are willing to speak out against them. The thing is though, this more positive statements like this made by a large group muslims will go largely ignored
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it does reflect badly on islam..these people were instructed to protest by their mosques
"The crowds streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pick-up trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Mrs Gibbons."
"a Sufi sect within the country had called for the demonstration and he spotted the sect's green flags among the crowds.
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these people were instructed to shout for her death by their moral guides..the people that basically run their lives, their instructors in their faith
it reflects entirely on Islam because the people who preach this faith are telling their followers to protest against this preceived slight on their faith
any god who would see a person put to death for this sort of thing is a god not worth following..and you would have though a god worht his salt would have done something about it, but he lets people commit acts of unspeakable horror in his name instead
its a fairy story same as christianity to me..however I can say that in this country..is Sudan I would be lucky to escape with my life it seems, God , Bhudda, Allah...cobblers the lot of it
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If the point of the whole debacle is that Islam won't permit a graven image of mohammed then how come millions of little boys are permitted to be named Mohammed every year?
The only problem comes when it is only the extremists and those not following the doctrine of Islam (apparently such as Sudan) that the general populace of the West hears about.
Where are all the peace loving Muslim leaders? Either keeping quiet or simply not interesting enough.
It is my belief that the peaceful Muslims of the world don't do enough to shout down/contest the scuzzy mussies of the world. Calls to arms against the infidels of the west and such.
This may happen and I'm not for a second saying it absolutely does not, but we don't see it enough.
This question has been asked plenty of times, as I'm sure you saw when you read the thread.
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As mentioned within this thread though, there is no central power in Islam. There is no-one to tell Sudan that they are acting against Islam rather than for it. There is no-one to tell OBL that he is acting against Islam not for it.
It doesn't work in the way Christianity works. I suppose the Muslim religion itself would never lend itself to a central powerbase - where would it be? Every Muslim nation in the world would be up in arms at being cast as a secondary to another nation. It is in their nature it seems.
they might give you a nasty chinese burn though..better not make them mad!
The point he is making and which you seem unwilling to accept is: just because people claim to be speaking and acting for Islam, does not mean that they are. The idea of a Sufi sect behaving in such a way is frankly laughable and tells me they are just masquerading under the title in an attempt to gain some legitimacy.
very true..but we got it out of our system 400 or so years ago..these daft sods still have not moved forward...except they have guns now instead of rocks