X4 PHENOM taken to 3GHZ by MOFO64

Columbo · 1 Dec 2007 at 09:58

How many ppl have been killed and buried in that basement??

27msec Super PI time is just cack, not very promising. Whats needed for 3.2? Liquid Nitrogen maybe?

£55 CPU below from my HTPC

Bleek · 1 Dec 2007 at 10:01

jaykay · 1 Dec 2007 at 10:05

Yer super PI 1m is one of the crappiest way to rate a CPU. It doesn't give an overall look at the cpu.

Columbo · 1 Dec 2007 at 10:07

jaykay said:
Yer super PI 1m is one of the crappiest way to rate a CPU. It doesn't give an overall look at the cpu.

Indeed your right, but it IS one benchmark of many, and surely considering the CPU in question here it should be better than the 27 ms it is reporting.

mrthingyx · 1 Dec 2007 at 10:08

Nice work.

We seem to have a few Cure 2 devotees here who lambast the chip based on its Superpi result alone, which I find rather odd. Espcially considering it doesn't appear to have that much bearing on... anything, nowadays. Apart from a processor's ability to compute Pi.

As a gaming chip, this this is just as fast - if not faster on some occasions - than a Core2Quad based on Kentsfield or - burn me at the stake for heresey - even Yorkfield...

Sure, at encoding it is pretty poor but myself - as a gamer - don't really care.

Add to that what appears to be curiously lacking BIOS support for pretty much every Phenom-compatible board out there and 3GHz is very impressive.

Don't forget that Tomshardware apparently managed it with AMD Overdrive...

Columbo · 1 Dec 2007 at 10:13

mrthingyx said:
Nice work.

We seem to have a few Cure 2 devotees here who lambast the chip based on its Superpi result alone, which I find rather odd. Espcially considering it doesn't appear to have that much bearing on... anything, nowadays. Apart from a processor's ability to compute Pi.

As a gaming chip, this this is just as fast - if not faster on some occasions - than a Core2Quad based on Kentsfield or - burn me at the stake for heresey - even Yorkfield...

Sure, at encoding it is pretty poor but myself - as a gamer - don't really care.

Add to that what appears to be curiously lacking BIOS support for pretty much every Phenom-compatible board out there and 3GHz is very impressive.

Don't forget that Tomshardware apparently managed it with AMD Overdrive...

Indeed great effort from the OP. The bios will get better I''m sure as will the overclockability of the chips.

Oh and I aint no fanboy pal, I've got a 6400+ in my gaming machine

sargatanas · 1 Dec 2007 at 14:49

ManCuBuS said:
Indeed your right, but it IS one benchmark of many, and surely considering the CPU in question here it should be better than the 27 ms it is reporting.

Pi absolutely LOVES cache, thats one of the big reasons it runs so well on a conroe, you can run it on one core and have the whole 4Meg cache dedicated to it. Whereas these cpus only have 512k L2 + the 2MB L3(which will be considerably slower).

something_totally_different · 1 Dec 2007 at 16:42

ManCuBuS said:
How many ppl have been killed and buried in that basement??

27msec Super PI time is just cack, not very promising. Whats needed for 3.2? Liquid Nitrogen maybe?

27sec SPI score is not crap by any means for the simple fact that using SPI to rate a cpu is the same as rating a sports car only by how fast it can get from 0 to 60mph. utterly pointless.

Lightnix · 1 Dec 2007 at 17:55

Still, the fact that a similarly clocked E2180 can beat it, even in this benchmark, still kinda says something about Phenom. :\

V4NT0M · 1 Dec 2007 at 18:43

Lightnix said:
Still, the fact that a similarly clocked E2180 can beat it, even in this benchmark, still kinda says something about Phenom. :\

That it calculates pi slower than a similarly clocked E2180?

dr. sarf · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:22

I think a lot of people here have a negative spiral on AMD, and so will take anything and use it as ammunition against them, shame really.

Rroff · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:31

Super Pi does go quite a long way with current CPUs to indicate overall performance tho... (mutli threaded performance aside but you can just scale it based on the number of cores)

I'm sorry but that super PI score is only moderately better than my aging P4C Northwood at 3gig...

I applaud you for the effort, but the CPU is a lame duck.

Jokester · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:36

Super-Pi is a cache whore.

Jokester

weescott · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:37

SOLDNER-MOFO64 said:
MOFO64 presents the worlds first RETAIL oc'd B1 9500 to reach 3GHZ

I'm not dissin your work but:

Where is the CPUZ shot at 3Ghz?

I can see a max clock of 2904mhz and a max PI speed of 2849Mhz, plus an AMD Overdrive shot showing 3Ghz. Is the software accurate?

Hopefully a new bios will sort out the overclocking a little.

Mul · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:45

Rroff said:
Super Pi does go quite a long way with current CPUs to indicate overall performance tho... (mutli threaded performance aside but you can just scale it based on the number of cores)

I'm sorry but that super PI score is only moderately better than my aging P4C Northwood at 3gig...

I applaud you for the effort, but the CPU is a lame duck.

While I do agree that although his efforts were great the performance appears to be lame, I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to compare it to a P4C? In all fairness, even with quick RAM it was tricky to break into the 30's in Pi 1M at stock 3.0GHz let alone the 20's? Apologies if I misunderstood what you said.

I think I can safely say as well that SuperPi isn't a great way of comparing Core 2 vs Athlon 64. Despite comparing CPU's of comparable performance in most other applications, SuperPi can indicate something like a 25-30% difference between the two, in favour of the Core 2 Duo.

Regardless, even though I expected Phenom to be slower than Core 2 Quad clock for clock, I expected it to clock reasonably well. This is a tad disappointing. Do keep it up though Mofo64, perhaps we could see some progress with further tweaking and further BIOS releases.

Rroff · 1 Dec 2007 at 19:54

My P4C (one of the few good P4 CPUs that doesn't make your average toaster look like a fridge in comparison heat wise) with 2gig OCZ Gold XTC on a DFI Infinity board does 37.6xx seconds iirc at stock and I've hit 32 seconds when overclocking it to 4gig. OK its not 27 seconds, but neither is it hugely slower for something that is considerably older technology now... been running a few years.

gurusan · 1 Dec 2007 at 21:06

Rroff said:
My P4C (one of the few good P4 CPUs that doesn't make your average toaster look like a fridge in comparison heat wise) with 2gig OCZ Gold XTC on a DFI Infinity board does 37.6xx seconds iirc at stock and I've hit 32 seconds when overclocking it to 4gig. OK its not 27 seconds, but neither is it hugely slower for something that is considerably older technology now... been running a few years.

superpi doesn't mean squat.

aftershxck · 1 Dec 2007 at 21:19

"...albeit very unstable..." - what is the point of that?

weescott · 1 Dec 2007 at 21:25

There is nothing wrong with pushing a chip to its absolute max for the purpose of testing. More people should try it! It's fun!

Rroff · 1 Dec 2007 at 21:46

gurusan said:
superpi doesn't mean squat.

I disagree