Guns ARE allowed in the UK. Plenty of people own rifles and shotguns. Most states in the US just have ridiculously lax gun control, that's all.
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Guns ARE allowed in the UK. Plenty of people own rifles and shotguns. Most states in the US just have ridiculously lax gun control, that's all.
So? It makes no difference if they keep the guns at home.
Which is what I'm trying to point out..
Show us those statistics.
Since when does Canada have National Service? This is the problem with you liberal, tree hugging types. You don't research your facts and just spout any old crap.
But the guns we are allowed to own here in the UK are greatly limited, like in the US, you can get fully automatic weapons, in the UK, its nearly impossible to get a firearms certificate that will allow you to use a fully automatic weapon. Handguns also are not allowed in the UK, as well as owning a gun for the sake of owning a gun, im not sure if its true for all weapons in the UK, but i know for rifles you need a practicle use for them if you want to own one, like target shooting.
My wife comes from Omaha, NE and i've visited there plenty of times. I wouldn't say they're one of those gun toting states like Texas. I went into a big sports store one time and found a big gun section, i loved it but most people i told didn't even know it was there or didn't really want it to be.
Just one of those quiet states with a big farming population, although Omaha is a big City just like any other in America.
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For everyone saying about banning guns, just look how gun crime has plummeted since banning them in the UK 
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ok I agree to a point but you can't deny that if America had the same gun restrictions as the UK has it would save thousands of lives surely.
For everyone saying about banning guns, just look how gun crime has plummeted since banning them in the UK
that is pure conjecture, the reason why gun crime as gone up is because society in general is simply getting worse and as a result of that people are getting hold of guns and miss-using them, yes ultimately if we was living in a better evolved world then we should all be able to have guns and use then responsibly but, the large majority of people on this planet are not responsible enough, America is a blatant example of that, so it is up to a higher power that was voted in Democratically to introduce new legislation and enforce laws to project peoples well-being, we need this, we've only really in the grand scheme of things just crawled out of our caves, do you really think we are evolved and responsible enough to all carry around the power to take people lives away at the pull of a trigger, we are noway in control of ourselves enough to have that power, I think guns can only have one place in our society and thats for sport in a controlled environment, I don't agree on them being used in any other way, shape, or form.
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I blame it on people not using full stops on the end of their sentences.
<grabs gun and randomly starts shooting people shooting>
In a society like America, which often breeds resentment amongst people who perceive themselves as different (or are told they are different, bullied, or whatever), where it is relatively easy to get your hands on a weapon which can kill multiple people with ease, you are asking for trouble.
The solution goes further than "banning *** gunz" - you need to look at the underlying issues. However I'd advocate banning handguns/semi automatics too; although it is protected by the constitution, that was written a long time ago. The right to bear arms is no longer necessary.
The solution goes further than "banning *** gunz" - you need to look at the underlying issues. However I'd advocate banning handguns/semi automatics too; although it is protected by the constitution, that was written a long time ago. The right to bear arms is no longer necessary.
For everyone saying about banning guns, just look how gun crime has plummeted since banning them in the UK
yeah it went up in 1997 but that probably because it was in the mind of the public and the police were cracking down on it after dunblane, also when you ban handguns you going to get more illegal guns on the street skewing the numbers.
personally I do agree that some of our gun laws are too strict (except the one on handguns).
The article said the shooter was depressed. I wonder how much the American medical system is to blame here? In the UK he could have easily got treatment for his depression on the NHS, but in the US it would have cost a fortune. The article also says that he worked at a fast-food restaurant, so likely no medical insurance to pay for it either.
Guns make it easy to kill people, so they should be banned or at least have much tighter restrictions.
Guns may not kill people with them being used, but neither does C4 yet that is banned. It's the fact that it is easy to use and kill many people, unlike a knife attack.
Guns may not kill people with them being used, but neither does C4 yet that is banned. It's the fact that it is easy to use and kill many people, unlike a knife attack.
So do cars, lets ban them too. What about blow torches? drills? Baseball bats? In fact lots of sports were built from combat type events and could still be easily used to kill people, lets ban them too. In fact, killing someone with a gun is actually quite difficult. That's why even trained professionals have to shoot someone 3 times if they're going for a kill, and why there's very rarely fatalities at these mass shootings.
C4 is perfectly legal. Misusing it isn't.
Only a gun specifically designed to kill though and I cant remember the last time saw someone go on the rampage with martial arts outside of a Chuck Norris movie.
I must have missed the last blow torch rampage. If I have somehow missed these then I say regulate and maybe even ban them too.
Guns kill easily, regardless of what you think about trained professionals. Ask the victims of those that have been massacred if the lives if their loved ones were taken away easily or not.
I wasn't aware possesing explosive substances was legal. Maybe you can shed more light on this?
They are reviewing there Gun laws for the first time in 70 years early next year. I'd say it's about time.
I cannot see any reason to own a gun unless your Hobby is shooting, Either targets, Clays or Vermin. I think our Gun laws work, those responsible enough are allowed to own them & decent people are Not restricted. On the other hand with the States selling guns by the bucket load far to many are getting into the hands of non responsible/stable people. It stands to reason that if they tightened there gun laws it would reduce these kinds of events. It may take a few decades to decline though as there is so much metal out there already.
Either way each & every individual should prove there suitable for gun ownership. The Ammo for the Columbine massacre was bought at Wall Mart for ***** sake.
I cannot see any reason to own a gun unless your Hobby is shooting, Either targets, Clays or Vermin. I think our Gun laws work, those responsible enough are allowed to own them & decent people are Not restricted. On the other hand with the States selling guns by the bucket load far to many are getting into the hands of non responsible/stable people. It stands to reason that if they tightened there gun laws it would reduce these kinds of events. It may take a few decades to decline though as there is so much metal out there already.
Either way each & every individual should prove there suitable for gun ownership. The Ammo for the Columbine massacre was bought at Wall Mart for ***** sake.