Weekend Football *SPOILERS* 8-9th December

Really?!
Because it was Carragher who gave away the penalty and then had 3 put past him against Reading. Not Man Utd, READING!

LOL and you lost to Bolton and we beat them 4-0 :rolleyes:

And you'd have been much better off without Schmeichel after he conceded 11 goals in 2 games, not Liverpool and Aresnal but Newcaslte and SOUTHAMPTON :rolleyes:
 
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LOL and you lost to Bolton and we beat them 4-0 :rolleyes:

And you'd have been much better off without Schmeichel after he conceded 11 goals in 2 games, not Liverpool and Aresnal but Newcaslte and SOUTHAMPTON :rolleyes:

Okay, if we're gonna talk winning and losing?
5 out of 5 in Champions League and through.
We're second IN the league.
We BEAT Chelsea in the league and should have BEATEN Arsenal.

My point is, you always hear Liverpool fans defending Benitez as if he's the greatest manager in world football when he's not. He's good, but not that good. He makes stupid decisions at stupid times and as a result you're a cup team, it's been proven again and again.
Then you always defend Carragher, but the guy makes mistake after mistake after mistake. You say you're better saving Carragher for Man Utd, but you conceed 3 to Reading... hardly the leagues most attacking side... which is quite funny really... because WE ARE the leagues most attacking side.
 
I was being sarcastic because of your point which tbh was pretty much bs. Like i said you'd have been better off without Schmeichel after he conceded 11 in 2 games? And like i said you conceded 6 to Southampton who were hardly the most attacking side, but of course you weren't better off without Schmeichel or your back 4 because these things just happen.

Taking off Carra was perfectly acceptable and Rippers post about 3 points being the same whoever you play was bs and made no sence too. Carra was going to have next to no effect on the game or result in those last 10mins so why risk him for a game where he could have a huge effect.

You can say what you like about how bad our players and manager are but simple facts are that if we were to win our game in hand we would only be 3 points behind you lot and who knows if we beat you next Sunday we may well end up above you, so you must be pretty **** too :)

And had you watched the game (don't know if you did) Reading hardly battered us etc, they got a goal from a poor penalty decision, one decent set-play and then got us on the break when we were chasing the game.
 
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Ronaldo penalty was absolutely outrageous, calling it a dive would not do it credit , stuck his own leg a foot out to the side to try and catch the defenders leg and then when he couldn't reach threw himself in a heap :rolleyes:

lol just saw this on football first, atleast when Pires tried that trick he made some sort of contact :rolleyes:
 
Okay, if we're gonna talk winning and losing?
5 out of 5 in Champions League and through.
We're second IN the league.
We BEAT Chelsea in the league and should have BEATEN Arsenal.

My point is, you always hear Liverpool fans defending Benitez as if he's the greatest manager in world football when he's not. He's good, but not that good. He makes stupid decisions at stupid times and as a result you're a cup team, it's been proven again and again.
Then you always defend Carragher, but the guy makes mistake after mistake after mistake. You say you're better saving Carragher for Man Utd, but you conceed 3 to Reading... hardly the leagues most attacking side... which is quite funny really... because WE ARE the leagues most attacking side.
You prove time and time again that you know **** all about football.
 
You say you're better saving Carragher for Man Utd, but you conceed 3 to Reading... hardly the leagues most attacking side... which is quite funny really... because WE ARE the leagues most attacking side.

I think your just looking for an arguement for arguments sake imo. :rolleyes: :) Missing an obvious fact are'nt we; and that been Carra's regular fellow centre back in Aggar of the last 1 1/2 years is sidelined, instead he's been paired up with 34yr old guy who's legs gone or the kid from reserves, Carra's been pulled all over the shop trying to do the work of two. :(

For that the blame can be firmly planted on Rafa for not signing cover during summer. Im a Liverpool fan granted so my views mean nothing in the eyes of a Manc fan, but Carra is quality at what he does, take one regular centre back out of either Chelsea, Man U or Arsenal and more often than not results can get a tad iffy.

Liverpool are far from poor at the back, shipping just 9 goals in 15 league games pretty good going for a so called dodgy back line. :p
 
Surprised to see Liverpool lose, they had been on a very good run and looking strong. Odd decisions by Rafa as well. They could find themselves out of the CL and even out of the title race if the next week doesn't go to plan as well. To take your best player off after 70 mins in a key PL match for a CL match is just plain stupid. Carragher coming off I can understand because they had Hyypia and Reading weren't really looking to attack but taking Gerrard was a very odd decision when they desperately need the points. I've never quite understood his thinking at times...

Good win for the mancs as well and just watching MOTD it looked like it was raining like hell out there! I'm surprised nobody in the press has mentioned the 4th goal for Man utd came from an outrageous dive who according to some of the manc experts on here doesn't dive? Wasn't Fergie having a moan a week or so ago about how the Fulham GK had conned the ref? Who conned the ref this time?
 
im suprised jazz too, it was just plain disgraceful, after everyones defended him after last week, and there was a bit of a fuss kicked up over it, he goes and does that today, shows what a muppet he can be really.


Just a point to squash the omg carra is crap arguement
Didnt mancs blame the loss to bolton on rotation&rookie defender? :)
Nuff said, we all have our bad games!
 
Lucas for Sissoko is questionable with the way Reading play.

I agree about the rest, losing today, which was extremely likely even if we kept Gerrard on, will not ultimately cost us the league where as not winning vs Marseille puts us out the cl and will have much longer term effects on our success in the league (the amount of money we have to strengthen the squad etc).
what baz is saying is true it i rather loss 3points and get to the next round of the cl also it was not are day today . Rafa is our only way we going to win the title so get behind him there is a lot of people on her that give rafa stick when it not going liverpools way. We won 3cups in 3seasons so he must not be bad.
 
Surprised to see Liverpool lose, they had been on a very good run and looking strong. Odd decisions by Rafa as well. They could find themselves out of the CL and even out of the title race if the next week doesn't go to plan as well. To take your best player off after 70 mins in a key PL match for a CL match is just plain stupid. Carragher coming off I can understand because they had Hyypia and Reading weren't really looking to attack but taking Gerrard was a very odd decision when they desperately need the points. I've never quite understood his thinking at times...

I personally would have kept him on and gone all out but i certainly can understand why he was taken off. Like i said previously we were very unlikely to get back in it with 20mins to go even with him on the pitch and losing today wasn't going to be the end of the league for us (who know's a Chelsea win and Liverpool win next week and its blown right open even if it wasn't already open) but not winning on Tuesday would end our cl hopes and effect how much we have to spend on improving the squad, thats not saying we're taking the CL over the league but simply a bit of caution and common sence.
 
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Ronaldo is our Penalty taker, not Tevez. Ronaldo was told to give his last penalty up to Saha, what's the point of having a defined penalty taker if you're not going to take them.
Tevez is a striker and gets his chances in the match. For me, it's fair, you give the penalties to the penalty taker.

However, it wasn't a penalty. I guess you could say karma for last week, but it's disappointing to see at any time, especially when he doesn't need to and almost never does.

I disagree. I thought it was quite unsporting of him not to at least offer it to Tevez. Tevez can take penalties too. What I've seen recently of Ronaldo is desperation to score a goal no matter what. He is starting to get extremely selfish whenever freekicks are just outside the box and you can see his frustration in games during the last 20 or so minutes when other players have scored and he hasn't. Hunger is a good thing, but he's acting like a complete spoilt brat. And his arrogance is oozing out in full flow nowadays. Quality player but he needs to keep his feet on the ground and not let it all get to his head.

Edit: Hurray for Rafa!! Keep him as long as you can. :p
 
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baz my comment wasnt about the carragher sub, more the other two. if i was a liverpool fan id be disgraced that the manager threw the towell in with 20 minutes to go
 
I personally would have kept him on and gone all out but i certainly can understand why he was taken off. Like i said previously we were very unlikely to get back in it with 20mins to go even with him on the pitch and losing today wasn't going to be the end of the league for us (who know's a Chelsea win and Liverpool win next week and its blown right open even if it wasn't already open) but not winning on Tuesday would end our cl hopes and effect how much we have to spend on improving the squad, thats not saying we're taking the CL over the league but simply a bit of caution and common sence.

Steven Gerrard is physically at his peak and I just don't see why he couldn't play a full game on Saturday and another on Tuesday, most of the top players do this in Europe and Gerrard is no different. If Rafa wants to make sure he is rested then surely in games against Newcastle and Bolton when the game was done and dusted at half time he should take him off then to keep him fresh if there are any fitness concerns. Taking him off when you are losing against Reading is a strange one and I don't think the game was over at all. If your lot had scored a goal and had 10 mins left I feel you could have got a point out of it but to take Gerrard off was like throwing the towel in really. Even if you look a bit further ahead in the month you have games against Wigan and Derby and Gerrard can be completely rested in those matches. In such a crunch week for Liverpool you don't want to mess around with anything and I feel Rafa is trying to be too clever here. That said as you mention if your lot qualifty for the CL, beat the mancs and we lose to Chelsea then Rafa will be a genius according to the scousers ;)
 
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