Top paid jobs in the uk

Kmodo · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:41

Zip said:
Clearly you have no idea what you have to go through to become a fire fighter.
It might not be years and years of training even though they learn and do courses All the time. But they have Very Physical training and entrance levels.
Just because you dont spend your life reading books in uni and doing other crap like that doesnt mean you dont deserve to be payed as well as people that do

I consider myself fairly neutral but lets be serious here jobs like firefighters, police ect are over subscribed to the point they get to pick and choose from minorities... the amount of people wanting to train is doctors from the UK pales in comparison.

Yet even with the extreme pay difference we have a shortage of people wanting to train as doctors in the UK...

Logic dictates that the pay difference is relative due to the years of training and then constant stress and long hours of a being doctor compared to the short *FREE* training and then sitting in the fire station waiting for something to happen (which even then is rarely fires

).

I have nothing against firefighters but this is about pay.

Kemik · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:41

mrthingyx said:
You're paid how much to put pelican crossings in the stupidest of places?

Hmmm... I'm up at 31 as an accountant. Shame I get just about half the 'average' salary.

Me too (soon).

Haha, it's great having a profession which begins with A. Makes it easier to find. Technically because I'd be starting on 20K less than the average, my final wage should be about 60k or more. Wohoo.

Jez · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:42

Scuzi said:
So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

According to that chart 10th position is £50k, so even i would fall into that and i hardly have a lavish lifestyle. Unless i have read this wrong, as this doesnt seem right..

PikeyPriest · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:44

Morba said:
very low amount that firefighters get as it is

Dont the tables show the exact opposite? That they do quite well. I`m not saying firefighters dont have an important job, but IMO they are damn well paid for the job they do currently. There is absolutely no need to even think about paying them more. (this might need a separate thread, maybe even SC, so this doesn't get to de-railed)

PikeyPriest · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:48

Scuzi said:
So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

#2 - but still training to get there

So really about #10000+ - Student

Skalaberg · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:49

Scuzi said:
So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

4TH!!!!

Sales Director.....and guess what.....

I'm flippin skint

lololololol

Zip · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:52

fini said:
Very presumptuous of you.

So someone who did do years and years of training should be paid more - otherwise what is the point of doing years and years of training?

I agree that you can gain skills through practical applications rather than uni etc, but thats not the point here. If there were years and years of skills that you needed to build up, either through uni or through experience in other working areas, before becoming a firefighter then you'd have a point - but there aren't.

Uni isnt everything!

Uni cant teach people to be extreemly Physical, Theres not much in Firefighting that needs book work.
You have to be Physical and pretty Street Smart. You get trained and then you learn lots and lots of your Higher officers in Charge. When in a Burning building or getting some one out of the car you learn much more then you ever could from a book. They train you how to do it but you will find your self learning much mroe very quickly when you do actually do it for real.

If its your choice to waist your younger years in uni then go for it, But a lot of people dont want to go to uni or just arnt smart enough in the right areas shouldnt have to suffer. If they want to do a Job like Firefighters and get paid reasonably pretty much after training then let them.

And most people i know that want to become Doctors or are in uni training to become one or work in Medicine arnt even doing to help people, They are doing it for the high Status doctors seem to have :rolleyes:

At least most figher fighters are in it to serve and help people and not just doing it tom make them selves a higher class person

Scuzi · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:52

Jez said:
According to that chart 10th position is £50k, so even i would fall into that and i hardly have a lavish lifestyle. Unless i have read this wrong, as this doesnt seem right..

True, based on actual salary I'd fall inbetween 5 and 6 but I certainly wouldn't consider myself to be in the top 10 bracket throughout the country. Like you say, 50-60k is a very decent salary but it's hardly enough for a lavish lifestyle.

toString · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:58

Unless you live with your parents - the trouble is the more you earn the bigger your mortgage payments will be, generally speaking.

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:01

Zip said:
Uni isnt everything!

You actually quoted me saying exactly the same

Zip said:
Theres not much in Firefighting that needs book work. You have to be Physical and pretty Street Smart.

You need to be street smart for most jobs nowadays and being physically fit - well getting fit is hardly a skill.

Zip said:
You get trained and then you learn lots and lots of your Higher officers in Charge.

Just like any other job where you learn more whilst in post - this isn't unique at all.

Zip said:
When in a Burning building or getting some one out of the car you learn much more then you ever could from a book.

Thats a ridiculous thing to say. You could learn to build a nuclear power plant by reading a book - is that less than what you learn by getting someone out of a car?

Zip said:
They train you how to do it but you will find your self learning much mroe very quickly when you do actually do it for real.

Again, much like every other job in existence.

Zip said:
a lot of people dont want to go to uni or just arnt smart enough in the right areas shouldnt have to suffer.

So 'I'm sorry Tim, you're not smart enough to be a brain surgeon, but don't worry, you wont have to suffer because you're stupid - we'll still pay you the same as a brain surgeon - now go sweep up the leaves'? People get paid a wage due to the skill and specialism required to do the job. Firefighting requires little skill or specialism to get picked - it is only once you are a firefighter that you get trained and even then that training is of a low skill threshold compared to a doctor etc.

Zip said:
most people i know that want to become Doctors or are in uni training to become one or work in Medicine arnt even doing to help people, They are doing it for the high Status doctors seem to have

What has that got to do with how much they should be paid?

Jez · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:02

Scuzi said:
True, based on actual salary I'd fall inbetween 5 and 6 but I certainly wouldn't consider myself to be in the top 10 bracket throughout the country. Like you say, 50-60k is a very decent salary but it's hardly enough for a lavish lifestyle.

The averages in the top few are completely shot i would say, the gap will be very wide depending on what companies they do the work in.

Position one for example shows £171k as an average for a director or cheif exec. I would hazard a guess that the only reason this figure is this low is due to thousands of directors of small companies pulling it down. Directors level personnel i know through family who work in larger companies tend to earn far in excess of this amount. Guess its interesting to see an average though even if it is fairly meaningless further up.

Scuzi, seems silly doesnt it, i cant even afford to buy a proper house

mattpc · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:05

Dark_Injection said:
I think this also

There is a solution mate. Why don't you become a window cleaner and see how you like it? I don't employ a window cleaner because I think they are a stupid waste of money but many people value having their windows cleaned.

18k is not a lot of money really and I certainly would not want to be up a ladder for a living for much less than that. Imagine if you fell off..........

mattpc · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:06

Jez said:
The averages in the top few are completely shot i would say, the gap will be very wide depending on what companies they do the work in.

Position one for example shows £171k as an average for a director or cheif exec. I would hazard a guess that the only reason this figure is this low is due to thousands of directors of small companies pulling it down. Directors level personnel i know through family who work in larger companies tend to earn far in excess of this amount. Guess its interesting to see an average though even if it is fairly meaningless further up.

Scuzi, seems silly doesnt it, i cant even afford to buy a proper house

lol I am a company director and you could knock about £159k off that average figure to get my wage.

PikeyPriest · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:07

Zip said:
Uni isnt everything!

If its your choice to waist your younger years in uni then go for it, But a lot of people dont want to go to uni or just arnt smart enough in the right areas shouldnt have to suffer. If they want to do a Job like Firefighters and get paid reasonably pretty much after training then let them.

And most people i know that want to become Doctors or are in uni training to become one or work in Medicine arnt even doing to help people, They are doing it for the high Status doctors seem to have

At least most figher fighters are in it to serve and help people and not just doing it tom make them selves a higher class person

LOL! So the people that go to uni and design most of the equipment used by firefighters, design new buildings to be safe in the event of fires....etc obviously dont do an important job.

As for medical students and doctors only being after the social standing, i suggest you talk to a few more before spouting such rubbish. Being a medical student and knowing a couple hundred myself, working with junior doctors and consultants daily, i can honestly tell you that if we were after money we would have all done dentistry. The long hours in hospital and outside doing masters/phd, which are becoming nearly the norm, wouldn't be worth it if people didn't care about helping people.

Scuzi · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:07

Jez said:
Scuzi, seems silly doesnt it, i cant even afford to buy a proper house

Tell me about it, I really don't understand how someone on say £30k which is a good salary, can afford a mortgage when house prices are what they are. A decent sized house in a nice area down here in the south is going to be over £200k - most appearing to be around £250k. What's a mortgage on something like that, about £1200-1500 a month?

Zip · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:12

PikeyPriest said:
LOL! So the people that go to uni and design most of the equipment used by firefighters, design new buildings to be safe in the event of fires....etc obviously dont do an important job.

As for medical students and doctors only being after the social standing, i suggest you talk to a few more before spouting such rubbish. Being a medical student and knowing a couple hundred myself, working with junior doctors and consultants daily, i can honestly tell you that if we were after money we would have all done dentistry. The long hours in hospital and outside doing masters/phd, which are becoming nearly the norm, wouldn't be worth it if people didn't care about helping people.

I never said the Designers of the building and equipment aren't important did I?

And I was stating what ive seen from a lot of people i know and know of that are trying to get into the medical world. And yes some are doing Dentisty and other stuff like that. Most of them are doing it just for the Status. I find the Girls seemed to be worse for this for some reason =/

I just dont think Firefighters should get moaned about for the amount they make, Its not unfair, They probably should make more then they do anyway.
Just because people can apply and get into the training stages easyer then a doctor then so what? They shouldnt get payed as much?
Just because its not as hard to get in doesnt mean their pay should suffer

Tefal · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:13

Rotty said:
My job lists as £26k average, my company charge £165 + vat per hour for me ( I am good though )

gigolo?

Zip · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:15

Jez said:
Scuzi, seems silly doesnt it, i cant even afford to buy a proper house

There is a way around that

Save up your money and shift over here and pick up a 4 bedroom house for about $300k-$400k AUD

30k your money would make me very happy down here

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:17

Zip said:
Just because people can apply and get into the training stages easyer then a doctor then so what?

It means it's a job that doesn't need a specialist candidate and thus a lot more people could do it. The more people that could do a job, the less well paid it should be - and usually is unless they have some hyper aggressive union (e.g. trains and firefighters).

freshy · 11 Dec 2007 at 16:31

can't really read the text but appears my job is not directly on there. as a banker i assume i will be very high up there, but you have to factor the strain that your respective jobs put on oneself. when you factor in the consistent 14 hour days it ain't all that great, plus burnout means a lot leave this profession early.