Imitation Samurai swords too be banned!!

As those things all have other uses, I suggest that they don't offer the owner the same feeling of empowerment.

I'd suggest that implying that the citizens of this nation cannot be trusted to control their own emotions when carrying something that could cause harm smacks of elitism.
 
You don't "cut" (do you mean carve?) the Sunday roast with the point of a knife :rolleyes:

You do prepare vegetables with the point of a knife, you use it to pierce the skin of tomatoes for example.

You think the government should control how we behave. You probably think that the government controls us, not the other way around.
 
That's the best justification you can come up with as to why people should be allowed to own samurai swords, and presumably carry them around with you since if you get attacked with a non-plastic blade walking down the street you'll need your ninja-sword to defend yourself.

You're plainly have no grasp on reality. Did I say people should walk around with swords? Nope. Those who practise self defence are DEFENDING THEMSELVES from thugs with knives, that's why (when they practice) the "attacker" is using a real blade. That way if it happens in real life they know what to expect.

I'd love to see this real life sword using dojo in action - what's the betting that it's more akin to a choreography class than proper "martial arts..In my experience, with one or two notable exceptions, the martial artists I've had dealings with have all been complete idiots - congratz on increasing that pool of people by one.

Yeah the master beats up 5 year olds and grannies, and kills at least 100 people a day (more if he eats his weetabix) Care to do more stereotyping? And you're wrong about the teachings./.
 
You're plainly have no grasp on reality. Did I say people should walk around with swords? Nope. Those who practise self defence are DEFENDING THEMSELVES from thugs with knives, that's why (when they practice) the "attacker" is using a real blade. That way if it happens in real life they know what to expect.

So as long as when they get attacked they just happen to be carrying a sword they'll be fine. :rolleyes:
 
So as long as when they get attacked they just happen to be carrying a sword they'll be fine. :rolleyes:

err they know how to defend themselves and disarm the armed attacker with no weapons, or use things that most people carry (ie handbangs, mobile phones)

But then they do sword/sword training too...
 
So just samurai swords?

Cool so i can still get a ninja-to?


So because 5 people where killed in about a year they are banned?

But 9 people every day because of cars is a fine and dandy thing :rolleyes:
 
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I absent mindedly during an auction site frenzy, bid on a tv replica samurai sword, forgot all about it until 2 days later this whacking 5ft sword turned up at my work. Its now sitting on my entertainment unit collecting dust. :s
 
err they know how to defend themselves and disarm the armed attacker with no weapons, or use things that most people carry (ie handbangs, mobile phones)

Interesting... I suppose in theory anyway it's easier to defend yourself against a long blade (sword) rather than a short one (knife).

Not that I'd want to try either in a real situation. The knife defenses we do in jiujitsu aren't very convincing. Defense against a kosh however is quite believable.
 
As those things all have other uses, I suggest that they don't offer the owner the same feeling of empowerment.

I feel nothing but respect for the straight swords that I own, they are works of craftmanship that reflect a cultural history that deeply interests me. It is this lack of education and understanding that means people are able to abuse these items. I'll bet most of the Chavs with swords in their houses couldn't point to Japan or China on a map of the world.

If society taught people to be responsible for their actions and educated them instead on nannying and dumbing things down then we wouldn't need to ban things.

Banning them is only going to hype them up and now every wannabe hard nut will be off out to get one so they can boast to their mates they own an illigal weapon.

The whole thing is farcicle and shows the total short sightedness of the government with regards to social breakdown.
 
The knife defenses we do in jiujitsu aren't very convincing. Defense against a kosh however is quite believable.

I don't think you have the mental power to defeat a Kosh- even a P9 telepath was blasted across the room when fighting a Vorlon :D

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Kitchen knives*, motorbikes, bricks are not dangerous weapons although they all can be used to kill people.

so by this definition we should all be allowed to carry kukri's around a, gallons of concentrated sulphuric acid, and nitroglycerine, as non of them where originally designed as weapons.
 
The only reason why people collect imitation swords is cos they look good/wana show off/need an excuse to cover a stain and that's not a good enough reason to keep them imo if some of them are used for killings etc. If you really appreciate the craftsmanship and dedication that goes into making their real counterparts then you'd buy the real deal, even then you should need a licence.(unless you do already)
 
I feel nothing but respect for the straight swords that I own, they are works of craftmanship that reflect a cultural history that deeply interests me. It is this lack of education and understanding that means people are able to abuse these items. I'll bet most of the Chavs with swords in their houses couldn't point to Japan or China on a map of the world.

If only everyone was like you then there wouldn't be a problem. Sadly the actions of the brainless majority ruin it for everyone :(

If society taught people to be responsible for their actions and educated them instead on nannying and dumbing things down then we wouldn't need to ban things.

People will never be responsible for their own actions, anyone who thinks they will is living in a fantasy world. This is why we need laws - to set out clear boundaries for behaviour and to protect everyone.

Banning them is only going to hype them up and now every wannabe hard nut will be off out to get one so they can boast to their mates they own an illigal weapon.

The whole thing is farcicle and shows the total short sightedness of the government with regards to social breakdown.

80 attacks last year? I'd say that particular horse has already bolted.
 
so by this definition we should all be allowed to carry kukri's around a, gallons of concentrated sulphuric acid, and nitroglycerine, as non of them where originally designed as weapons.

Of course not :confused: We already have laws controlling dangerous chemicals. Presumably badbob thinks these laws are out of order to, and that his dojo should be allowed to use real sulphuric acid, after all, a real attacker isn't going to spray water in your eyes is he? ;)
 
Sadly the actions of the brainless majority ruin it for everyone

wow just wow....

People will never be responsible for their own actions,

The only people like that are in a mental home...and if you're thinking like that then perhaps should be in one too? If someone hands me a sword I don't need a law telling me that it's wrong to go cutting people...
 
You don't "cut" (do you mean carve?) the Sunday roast with the point of a knife :rolleyes:

Just wait until you try and get into your ready meal...:rolleyes:

I can't believe Chefs say points on knives are not needed.


How are the government going to differentiate between replica and genuine swords then? I can see that being a minefield. Is it only historic weapons (say more than 50 years old) that are allowed, or could I get a samarai sword shipped from Japan? That wouldn't be a replica, made by a proper japanese swordsmith. But then if the police came round how would they know it wasn't an imitation?

This is another one of those labour laws that won't have been thought out properly and will just descend into a farce. Well done labour!!:rolleyes:
 
So because 5 people where killed in about a year they are banned?

But 9 people every day because of cars is a fine and dandy thing :rolleyes:

Of course it isn't fine that people get killed because of cars, but cars aren't built to kill people.

Swords on the other hand were made for one purpose; to take life.
 
If only everyone was like you then there wouldn't be a problem. Sadly the actions of the brainless majority ruin it for everyone :(

Majority....don't be silly

People will never be responsible for their own actions, anyone who thinks they will is living in a fantasy world. This is why we need laws - to set out clear boundaries for behaviour and to protect everyone.

Most people are responsible for their own actions. However I agree this is on a sliding scale but the majority do not go around attacking eachother with blades.

80 attacks last year? I'd say that particular horse has already bolted

Maybe your right but I guess this is just a reflection of knife culture and using a sword is one up.

I retract nothing that I have said and refuse to believe I live in a fantasy world when I see nobody in my circle of extended friends, family or colleagues acting in this crazy irrisponsible manner.
 
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