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I would not go too tight on that block ...

Unless, like me , you are using a Back plate , then , feel free to apply a little more pressure ...

It may also help to lap your cpu if its concaved ...
 
Lapping the CPU next week and have a backplate on order :) Just wondered how many MM is sticking out the top of the nut so I know I have the right level of pressure
 
marscay said:
put in a quad nozzle and/or bow the block and the fuzion comes very close or most likely even beats the EK.
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Processor Temp................................Difference.
D-TEK FUZION .......EK SUPREME
30.............................29.74...............0.26
42.25.........................41.85...............0.4
57.85.........................56.5................1.35

WATER TEMP
D-TEK FUZION.......... EK SUPREME......Difference
32.8.............................34.3..............1.5
35.8.............................37.................1.2
38................................39.9..............1.9


I am in total agreement with you marscay
 
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Sheesh we are talking about such a tiny difference in temps between all of them its not worth losing any sleep over really is it.

Especially if you take it to a price/performance ratio.
 
yep pretty much, i had my q6600 under my storm for a bit when i first clocked it and it still kept temps under 50c under load at 3600 1.35v.

for a supposed crap quad core block it still performs pretty well until you start putting decent amounts of voltage through it, then it starts to fall away a bit more.
 
No real need to get rid of my MP-05 Pro limited edtion yet then. When a block comes out that shows a massive difference (not very likely it would seem) then i shall swap it out.
 
pastymuncher said:
No real need to get rid of my MP-05 Pro limited edtion yet then. When a block comes out that shows a massive difference (not very likely it would seem) then i shall swap it out.
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They are all incredibly tight on performance. When I finished my testing, I just left the AquaComputer in place, simply because I love the look. The EK is probably a shade better, but in reality there is no point in changing if you already have a decent block.

If you're buying a new one, on the other hand....

I'd get the EK.
 
tsinc80697 said:
How tight do you have the block screwed on?

How much of the screw is sticking out of the top nut?
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I'm using a backplate and I have the springs fully compresed (I just kept on tightening until I felt proper resistance, then I stopped).

There is no bend in the motherboard like that. EK himself contributes on a competitors forums and he strongly suggests using a backplate, but not enough to actually supply his own backplate apparently.
 
marscay said:
d-tek fuzion + nozzle tied with a Apogee GTX?

controversial :):p
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That's how it was. The differences aren't massive - if you actually do an analysis of variance across the 8 sets of data only the Best and Worse case scenarios are statistically significantly different, and that's despite having over 300 points in each data set.
 
Thanks WJA, when I get this backplate on Monday I'll make sure the springs are right down.
So you probably have about 10-15mm of the supplied screw sticking out ?
 
tsinc80697 said:
Thanks WJA, when I get this backplate on Monday I'll make sure the springs are right down.
So you probably have about 10-15mm of the supplied screw sticking out ?
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No, you have to bear in mind that the backplate sits off the bottom of the motherboard by about 5mm. Don't get too hung up on this measurement.

Less tension. but evenly applied is better than massive, uneven, tension. You just want to firmly press the middle of the block into the CPU.
 
Van Diemen said:
Damn, my CPU is already lapped.

Does this mean that the EK will be no good for me? Would I have been better off with the Fuzion?
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As I understand it (and it's all "theoretical") is that the UK block is so bowed it actually dishes the IHS on purpose to get the absolute best possible contact with the cores. In theory, and I stress it's theory only, you could make a lapped CPU unuseable with any other CPU cooler unless you lapped it again, and, at that point you may not have a lot of metal left.

You definitely don't want to lap the block though.

If you're worried about it, I'd go with a flat block, just to be sure.
 
It doesn't matter if you've lapped your processor or not, the bow isn't really there to counter act miss-shaped IHS', the discovery of the bowed water block was discovered by D-Tek by accident due to the cast FuZion being bowed in the process and by Swiftech.

The bow will work with any IHS' even if you've lapped it flat. See section 6 here: http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools

Both D-TEK and Swiftech had the test processor lapped during the CES show down, so I would believe they wouldn't have done it if lapping compromised performance when used with a bowed block.

Edit: WJA96, which orientation did you mount the EK?
 
Mekrel said:
It doesn't matter if you've lapped your processor or not, the bow isn't really there to counter act miss-shaped IHS'
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That's not what I'm concerned about. I should make myself more clear.

The problem, as I understand it comes when you want to use the previously glass-flat CPU with another block. The bow on the EK is supposedly so extreme that it bends the IHS and you need to lap it again if you want to use a flat block. It's the second lapping that's the potential problem, not the actual bending bit.

If you haven't lapped your CPU, you have a better chance of lapping it and using it again with a flat/less bowed block.

Mekrel said:
Edit: WJA96, which orientation did you mount the EK?
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On my P35-DS4 I had to mount it with the outlet barb at the top. The other thing I do that seems not to be 'flavour of the month' anymore is that I have the CPU block immediately after the pump (res->pump->block->radiator->res whereas the current recommendation on here seems to be res->pump->radiator->block->res which will give the coolest water across the block, but there will be a pressure drop across the radiator, I'm certain.
 
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Loop order wouldn't make a difference, loops reach equilibrium.

Reason I asked is temps seem to be better when mounted inlet/outlet horizontally.

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Not heard about the IHS bend, I doubt it can be that severe. I would say I doubt EK would release such a product that was capable of that, but then again he has released numerous blocks that don't actually fit the boards they were made for.

Mosfet 3 didn't fit a board he advertised as being compatible, The Maximus SE NB block also has a problem. He released a reservoir bottom to fix vortex issues that didn't work and then released another piece of acrylic to finally fix it. The end user being out of pocket in each instance.

He's now going to make another mounting plate, again the end user will have to pay for it. Seems a bit cowboy like to me.
 
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