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Isn't it a simple case of if theres no games YOU want, then don't buy the console.

Only annoying thing about these forums is the amount of people saying the PS3 sucks because of games, But they are working on their opinion of the games they like and don't like. For instance, Nokkon you don't Rate Ratchet and Clank, But I think it's a fantastic game!

As for regards to Soulja saying the exclusive lists are close, I'm pretty sure he's talking about future exclusives. Because to be honest, I don't think the 360 has that many left does it?

I'm not saying there arent any, Alan Wake, etc. But how many are there? That's an unfounded guess btw, I havent looked.
 
my PS3 has always been on it's side and i find it vertualy slient. And the damn thing is only 2 feet from my head in the open air.
 
I have an idea.

The next time somebody wants a console they go to the shop and buy the one they want on impulse and do not bother asking in an Internet forum.

Sheesh, you guys! :p
 
As for regards to Soulja saying the exclusive lists are close, I'm pretty sure he's talking about future exclusives. Because to be honest, I don't think the 360 has that many left does it?

I'm not saying there arent any, Alan Wake, etc. But how many are there? That's an unfounded guess btw, I havent looked.

One thing that confuses me when the PS3 is put on a pedestal for future exclusives is the belief that everyone's played all their cards. Molyneaux has hinted that they're working on a second title he would love to talk about, Epic are working on Gears 2, Bungie are working another 360 exclusive, Rare will be working on projects other than Banjo, Project Offset which looks like it could be one of the games of the year (check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqEm-3MFcvs) is albeit confirmed as 360/PC exclusive. We also hear Blue Dragon 2 is being worked on. Turn 10 will be working on something new and other developers will have been commisioned to work on exclusive 360 titles.
We do know about one game each from Rare and Lionsoft; Fable 2 and Banjo, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Peter Jacksons Halo project, Dead Island, Left 4 Dead, Infinite Undiscovery, GTAIV content, APB (from Realtime Worlds ~ the Crackdown folk) and much more.

I'd personally like to turn things around somewhat; all we hear about over and over and over again is how MGS, FF and GT will make the PS3 the console of choice for 08. Why? and what guaranteed AA titles does the PS3 offer on top of this, or after these have been released? It seems somewhat that Sony have already played all their cards (heck even MGS and FF are being used in current PS3 adverts). I'd even question whether FFXIII and MGS will be anything other than timed exclusives.
 
I own all three consoles, I personally think the 360 is the better choice right now, more games and the better controller for long gaming stints. It has better movie support and i think is a solid well built bit of kit, were as the PS3 feels cheap and plasticy s/?, it seams to be made of thinner plastic and will give under any pressure unlike the 360 case. The Blu-ray is a none starter for me, i think with upscalling turned on, my DVD's look as good, I dont like the darkness the PS3 adds to movies (is sometimes too dark especially in Blu-ray films).

At the end of the day, you should try playing both to see which controller you find more comfortable, as at the end of the day, this makes all the difference when gaming for long periods, the game title argument is weak as 'most' games are gonna be multi platform, and for every exclusive on one console, there will be another on the other console so a no win there.
 
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Taken from gamerankings all games above 80% review score. Console exclusives (not including PC)

Xbox 360:
90%+
Orange Box
Bioshock
Gears of War
Halo 3
Mass Effect
80%+
Forza Motorsport 2
PGR 3
PGR 4
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Viva Pinata
Crackdown
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Saints Row
Ace Combat 6
Perfect Dark Zero
Kameo
MotoGP 06

PS3
90%+
N/A
80%+
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance: Fall of Man
Warhawk
MotorStorm
Heavenly Sword

Yes both consoles are close on exclusives......

i wasn't talking about what score they got:rolleyes: i was talking about the amount of exclusive titles, out now and in the future
 
With respect, may I suggest you do try moving the PS3 to another place, just to try, with regard to breathing space?

If you have, then never mind, I'm not trying to argue.

When I had mine under the TV, in my TV stand, with, as I thought, plenty of breathing room, after the upscaling update, if I tried to watch a DVD, after 15 mins or so, the fan kicked up to what people have been referring to as level 3. It was an awful whooshing noise, that was really audible over the sound of the movie.

Taking the PS3 out sorted it.

So I bought one of those stands, to stand it on its side, and at worst, it got to level 2 during the middle of summer, and all through the winter, the fan stays on "level 1" which kicks in 10 mins or so after starting the movie.

As I say, no disrespect to you, as I know you got your 1st PS3 around the same time I did, but if all yours have been noisy, and mine was, until I moved it out on its own, on its side, then it's possible repositioning yours could help?

V1N.

I've had them all laid flat under my t.v. It could make a difference moving it but there isn't anywhere else to stand it:(
 
found this little list of exlusive PS3 stuff, certainly plenty to look forward to, if a lot of which are not known much about at this stage

PlayStation 3 Exclusives:

PlayStation 3 Exclusives Confirmed - Includes already released games
Released [24 Titles]

Eye of Judgement, The [PlayStation Eye]
Folklore
Formula One Championship Edition
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Genji: Days of the Blade
Godfather: The Don's Edition, The
Heavenly Sword
Lair
MLB '07: The Show
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
MotorStorm
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
NBA '07
NBA '08
Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7
Spider-Man 3: Collector's Edition
Time Crisis 4 [Including Guncon 3]
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Unreal Tournament III [+PC] [Timed Exclusive]
Virtua Fighter 5 [Timed Exclusive]
Warhawk


Upcoming [92 Titles]
ActiveDogs Project
Afrika [2008 Title]
Agency, The [+PC] [2008 Title]
Airtight Project
Amphibian Man [+PC]
Angel Rings
Aqua
BB [Working Title]
Big Time Revenge [2008 Title]
Black Blade
Bomberman
Brave Arms [JoyStiq]
Buzz!: Quiz TV [2008 Title]
Castlevania
Coded Arms: Assault
Cops
Chain Limit [JoyStiq]
Croteam Untitled Project
Crucible, The
Crytek Project
Dark RPG
DC Universe
Disgaea 3
Driver 5
Eight Days
Empire
Eyedentify
Factor 5 Project #2
Fatal Frame PS3
FIA World Touring Car Championship
Fifth Phantom Saga
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Future GPX Cyber Formula PS3
Getaway 3
God of War III
Gradius
Gran Turismo 5
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue [2008 Title]
Gretzky NHL [Working Title]
Haze [2008 Title]
Heavy Rain
Home, PlayStation [2008 Title]
Hot Shots Golf 5 [2008 Title]
inFAMOUS [2008 Title]
Jaffe Exclusive 1 [N4G]
Jaffe Exclusive 2 [N4G]
Jaffe Exclusive 3 [N4G]
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
Katamari Game [onAXIS]
Killzone 2 [2008 Title]
Kurayami (Darkness)
L.A. Noire [Confirmed]
LittleBigPlanet [2008 Title]
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [2008 Title]
Metal Gear Solid Online [Announcement] [2008 Title]
Metro 2033: The Last Refuge
Monster Madness EX
Motorstorm 2 [2008 Title]
Namco Bandai RPG Project
Namco Bandai Sports Project
Namco Bandai Shooter Project
Naruto: PS3 Project [Scans] [2008 Title]
Ni-Oh
Planet One
Project D
Project Psychic [Working Title]
Pterodon FPS Project [untitled]
Quantic Dream Project [Thread]
Resistance: Fall of Man 2 [2008 Title]
Rockstar Games Exclusive Franchise [PS.BlOG]
Rockstar Old West PS3 Project [untitled]
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Redwood Falls
Rengoku: The End of the Century
Returning Alive [Working Title]
Second Season 01 [JoyStiq]
Secret Service
Shin Megami Tensei Project [untitled]
SingStar [2008 Title]
SOCOM 4
Starbreeze Nex-Gen Project
Star Ocean 4 [2008 Title]
Steambot Chronicles 2
Syphon Filter PS3 [onAXIS]
Tekken 6 [2008 Title]
thatgamecompany Project #3 [untitled]
Wardevil [2008 Title]
Way of the Samurai 3
White Knight Story [2008 Title]
Yakuza: Kenzan!
Zipper Interactive Project
SOCOM: Confrontation
Wipeout HD

MultiPlatform Unknown Exclusives [2 Titles]
Silent Hill 5 [Possibility]
TimeSplitters 4

Unknown Exclusive/Rumored Titles [10 Titles]
Dark Cloud 3
Digimon World Online [Wikipedia]
Dragon Ball Z [onAXIS]
Epic Project [Announcement]
Final Fantasy VII [Possibility] [Petition] [Crisis Core Secret]
Gundam [onAXIS]
Kingdom Hearts III
Sly 4 [Wikipedia]
Twisted Metal [Clown Cloud]
Zone of the Enders 3 [Magazine Scan]
 
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i think is a solid well built bit of kit, were as the PS3 feels cheap and plasticy s/?, it seams to be made of thinner plastic and will give under any pressure unlike the 360 case.

This to me is a very strange statement. The 360 is the worst built piece of electronics i have ever owned. Have you seen inside one? It uses the cheapest, bendiest, metal chassis ever (seen inside a £4.99 pc case? same stuff) and to be honest it looks like a toy sat next to my PS3. After all the problems the 360 has seen for you to say it's a solid well built bit of kit is very very bizarre. Each to there own of course but still... :confused:
 
Nice list of upcoming PS3 titles but I really wish Evolution Studios would give us WRC before another Motorstorm.
 
By well build im refering to the External case, as i dont want to void any warranty by opening it.... If feels solid were as my PS3 feels tacky, i can physically push the plastic sides in with little pressure at all, and the shine just adds to the cheap look, especailly once you get finger prints all over it... cheap and nasty comes to mind, I dont care about the insides as i dont see them , and my 360 is a release console and never missed a beat !
 
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Taken from gamerankings all games above 80% review score. Console exclusives (not including PC)

Xbox 360:
90%+
Orange Box
Bioshock
Gears of War
Halo 3
Mass Effect
80%+
Forza Motorsport 2
PGR 3
PGR 4
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Viva Pinata
Crackdown
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Saints Row
Ace Combat 6
Perfect Dark Zero
Kameo
MotoGP 06

PS3
90%+
N/A
80%+
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance: Fall of Man
Warhawk
MotorStorm
Heavenly Sword

Yes both consoles are close on exclusives......

The orange box isnt a 360 exclusive.
And you forgot singstar in the PS3 exclusives over 80%

So thats 15 versus 9, a whole 6 more exclusive games having been out over a year longer.

Then if you are looking someone in the face and telling them Perfect Dark Zero and Motor GP 06 are reasons to choose a 360 over a PS3 you need your head examining.
 
Many 360 'exclusives' are on the PC anyway, which doesn't make them exclusive at all. But then you'd need a gaming PC of course, which I do, which you may not do. Remove the PC games out of that exclusive list and what's left on the 360 doesn't appeal to me half as much as what's coming on PS3.
 
The orange box isnt a 360 exclusive.
And you forgot singstar in the PS3 exclusives over 80%

So thats 15 versus 9, a whole 6 more exclusive games having been out over a year longer.

Then if you are looking someone in the face and telling them Perfect Dark Zero and Motor GP 06 are reasons to choose a 360 over a PS3 you need your head examining.

True, but I'd like to see the legitimacy of a lot of people reviewing some of those games so highly. Well respected publications certainly haven't been so kind to games such as Heavenly Sword, Resistance or Motorstorm. Warhawk for me was apalling too, such a massive disappointment for £20 and Sigma is just a remake of an old Xbox exclusive.

Whilst I question others on the Xbox360 too with equal verve, I just don't see a lot of quality in terms of exclusives on the PS3 at the moment. I would honestly only recommend Uncharted as a game that I couldn't put down, it's the only game I could think about putting in that 'top shelf' tier, but there are many I can think of on the Xbox360 such as PGR3, PGR4, Bioshock, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Test Drive Unlimited (which is missing from the list), Viva Pinata, Saints Row and Call of Duty 2 (another vacancy) off the top of my head.

It does come down to media, I use my PS3 for my media more than my Xbox360 because I think it's a much better console for, well, everything if I'm being honest. I love it, however for games I'd say the Xbox360 and I prefer the Live service to PSN as I think it gets games and downloads of a much higher quality (at the same time as the rest of the world - take a note Sony) and I think the extra features are much better, however, PSN isn't as bad as some people would make out. I'd rather pay £40 for PSN and have it like Live than have Live for free and be like PSN though.
You get a downloadable movie setup through Xbox Live which has potential (though a little too pricey for the restrictions it imposes for me) which could sway some people, it's not for me though.

I think everyone should own both if I'm being perfectly honest, it's hard to criticise either console without being petty (such as hardware failures - yes, we've all heard it and yes it's still petty after 2 years, grow up) so, for what both offer they are great.
I think Xbox has the better exclusives for the future (even without discussion or clues as to what the vast majority of future ones are) and I feel Sony are getting too dependent on MGS, FF and GT, if I'm being honest I'd rather play Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 than either of them.
I'm happy I own both, I feel sorry for those that only own one and reduce themselves to bickering over which is better, or those who are sour at making a mistake with their hardware and becoming bitter over it and becoming bias, so I'll say with this:

You'll be happy with either from now I believe as the most consistent games seem to be those on both formats such as Assassins Creed or Call of Duty 4, but if you're interested in playing exclusives then it has to be the Xbox360 now, there is no point buying 'for the future' when the consoles are so evenly powered and we don't know what is yet to come, buy for now and worry about the future later. If you must, get an Xbox360 now and be happy, sell that when the games on the PS3 (such as MGS, FF or GT) are out and then buy that.

Both are fantastic machines, I wish people would stop being so bitchy and actually accept that. There are only a couple of people here who have managed to maintain sensible composure without being bias, petty, bitter or plain pathetic and it's disappointing, so I'll give credit to msmalls74, Inoshishi and Abooie here (there are others, but I've never seen these 3 ever reduce themselves to what basically equates to schoolyard name calling and I can include myself in there as I've been guilty of that too, stupidly so at times).

People should buy whatever they think they'll be most happy with, I've given my honest opinion above in regards to both, so that's that for me.
 
SNIP...........People should buy whatever they think they'll be most happy with, I've given my honest opinion above in regards to both, so that's that for me.

Well said, just buy what will make you happy, I personally have the 360 elite and love it for the reasons of:

1) Awesome games I like (Mass effect, Halo 3, PGR4)

2) Equally like as much the arcade feature and play my all time fav games on that as much as the new ones (Speedball 2 ! (OH YES ! :D), worms, zums, etc), absolutely top live arcade is, sheer genious.

3) And thats about it really, iv used the media features and that works very well, also HD movies are coming online more now with live, ill be getting 300 on the 28th for 85p :D

Thats my personal reasons and why I have one, most of the above PS3 cant offer right now, but I can see why people want one. Also I cant afford to own 2 console 'brands' and can only afford to buy into one system, so for those who can have either but not both, its really upto you.

Id say the over simplified question that you have to ask yourself:

1) Are you more gamer than media enthusiast

OR

2) Are you a general media enthusiast who also likes to play games now and then

Answering 1) Id say 360, very game orientated, have the option for the classic arcade games, while still being able to connect to a vista/MCE pc to stream media and obviously the 360 will play DVD/HD-DVD perfectly fine

Answering 2) Gives you the PS3 being able to play div-x, blueray etc where iv heard it gives very very good playback there, and is well suited, also its a games console so wont fail so much there! lol

Just my 2p, enjoy :)
 
such as PGR3, PGR4, Bioshock, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Test Drive Unlimited (which is missing from the list), Viva Pinata, Saints Row and Call of Duty 2
It just goes to show how we differ in our likes and dislikes. For me PGR4 was just PGR3 with a few improvements, nothing more. Dead rising, TDU, Viva Pinata and Saints Row are all just average at best, yet you class them as must haves.


I think everyone should own both if I'm being perfectly honest
Absolutely, it would probably stop most of the arguing about which one to get.



without being petty (such as hardware failures - yes, we've all heard it and yes it's still petty after 2 years, grow up)
That's kind of ironic, if you have never had the need to complain about the hardware then you don't really know what it's been like to have to put up with it. Calling people petty who have had to upto 5 or 6 consoles break on them and still giving Microsoft a chance is a bit crap.


There are only a couple of people here who have managed to maintain sensible composure without being bias, petty, bitter or plain pathetic and it's disappointing, so I'll give credit to msmalls74, Inoshishi and Abooie here (there are others, but I've never seen these 3 ever reduce themselves to what basically equates to schoolyard name calling
True, but, the posters you've mentioned are not overly opinionated and so don't draw the attention of the trouble makers (no names mentioned Mr Holiday) I don't think I have ever seen anyone mock, bait or insult above named members, so not really giving them cause to 'retort'. Regardless of that, they are actually the guys I have noted lately as being very respectable too (among many others) Actually a point here, it does seem to be the die hard PS3 owners who are the more 'mature' around here.
 
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