Stuttering in Crysis

acesausage · 9 Jan 2008 at 00:31

Hi all,

Ive just got my hands on a Asus 8800 GTS 320 meg the g80 one. Ive installed it everything works fine including 3dmark 06 apart from Crysis.

I started playing with all setting on high at 1280x1024. During the game ive noticed some stuttering. Periods of 5 secs where it hangs then upto 3 mins of play before it happens again.

I proceeded to turn everything to medium and there where no problems.

I then moved and run the Crysis bench mark at high settings. The hang thing happend again but much more frequently during the bechmark. It then proceeded to crash and i had to end the program.

Is this a common problem on high settings or is there something else i can try?

System specs are:
e6300 @ 3.2
2gig G.Skill 6400 4-4-4-12
DS3 Rev 1
Asus 8800GTS G80 @ Stock
Vista 32

Many thanks

Big.Wayne · 9 Jan 2008 at 01:42

acesausage said:
I started playing with all setting on high at 1280x1024. During the game ive noticed some stuttering

That could either be

graphics card running out of VRam
System running out of memory and disk thrashing
Driver bulla
Anti-Virus trying to scan the hard disk
Faulty Graphics card
PSU just about to croak
Vista *unknown* boogeyman

[edit] Sounds more like the card not being quite up to it I think? I mean if you have no trouble at all when Crysis is running in medium quality?

Skyboat · 9 Jan 2008 at 03:19

I'd say system RAM, I get the occasional stutter and r_displayinfo tells me 1720Mb used and the HDD is thrasing, and this is with Vista x64 and 2Gb GeIL

sosrandom · 9 Jan 2008 at 03:24

They hangs ingame are to be expected (maybe ram or just graphics power), crashes during benchmark IDK I haven't heard anything

Cupra · 9 Jan 2008 at 04:26

vista 32 is no good for gamers if u want vista to game with u need vista 64 the end

close thread

zytok · 9 Jan 2008 at 09:14

care to explain?

acesausage · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:53

indeed, i thought my system ram was a bit low. but why is x64 better for games? coz i could double up my ram for £40 odd quid, worth the investement?

and no problems at all on medium. cs source, rd mark etc run fine.

Big.Wayne · 9 Jan 2008 at 11:06

acesausage said:
no problems at all on medium. cs source, rd mark etc run fine.

Just having a think about it. . . . hmmm . . . . So lets say the textures required in the game @ high were too large to fit in the VRam, then the graphics card would start using the system memory to store graphical textures or whatever, now if you were low on System ram those graphic textures would then be stored on your hard disk. . . .not good?

So if that is correct the moral of the story is. . . . try and adjust the graphic settings so that all the textures are stored in VRam, if that isn't possible then you must make sure you have enough system memory to deal with any overflow, I'm sure that would still mean a few stutters but no where as bad compared to having to use the hard disk to handle graphical data.

acesausage · 9 Jan 2008 at 12:27

interesting... sounds like might be an idea to up to 4 gigs. Ive had a lookin in rivatuner and crysis but cant see where i could fiddle about with the vram.

would it be worth installing x64 or back to xp mite i see an improvment?

Big.Wayne · 9 Jan 2008 at 13:03

I'm an 32-bit WinXP only man so can't really comment on the other O/S's. I have read that Vista does appear to be slower at gaming than WinXP but not sure if thats Vista 32 or 64-bit?

You will need a 64-bit O/S installed to take advantage of the full 4GB of ram though although I think there is a way to maybe get 3GB working under a 32-bit O/S but I'm really not sure?

Getting back to the root, a 320MB 8800GTS is a pretty sweet card but its not an 8800GTX, maybe with a few *tweaks* you can get the game smooth and looking good still? A compromise perhaps? or maybe consider flogging the 320MB card and picking up a newer card with more RAM?

I'm still not 100% sure its the card thats causing your issues but it is the most obvious weak-link?

wolvers · 9 Jan 2008 at 13:11

Cupra said:
vista 32 is no good for gamers if u want vista to game with u need vista 64 the end

close thread

Re-open thread.

I disagree. Vista 32 works fine for me.

Acesausage, you will need 4gb RAM for crysis on Vista64. Overclock your gpu and I think you'll see a good improvement. See the crysis benchmark thread for other 8800gts performance comparisons.

Scougar · 9 Jan 2008 at 14:17

The main problem is that having read recently that the Vista keeps the desktop in the gpu's memory so your 320mb is being reduced already. Turn off some of the fancy features and it may improve in as more vram is available to the game.

The other thing is that the high quality textures will simply take up more room and you've run out. You'll ideally need to get a card with at least 512mb of ram instead of the 320 you have. If you can, return the 320 and get an 8800gt 512mb, a much better card

Matthew

Big.Wayne · 9 Jan 2008 at 14:39

Scougar said:
if you can, return the 320 and get an 8800gt 512mb, a much better card

I doubt he has just bought that card new? maybe picked it up used for a good price?

Still some life in a 320MB 8800GTS yet?

acesausage: maybe try out 32-bit WinXP and see what happens?

muon · 9 Jan 2008 at 14:43

Anyone know why less system RAM is used in dx10 mode compared to dx9 mode when running crysis in 32bit?

wolvers · 9 Jan 2008 at 14:52

ghost101 said:
Anyone know why less system RAM is used in dx10 mode compared to dx9 mode when running crysis in 32bit?

I think that DX10 shifts more load in general to the graphics card, including RAM usage?

muon · 9 Jan 2008 at 14:55

wolvers69 said:
I think that DX10 shifts more load in general to the graphics card, including RAM usage?

Indeed that would have been my guess as well. But does anyone actually know for sure though.

The difference is quite substantial when running the gpu benchmark. In the dx9 high, RAM usage is over 1000mb while in dx10 high its less than 750mb. It couldnt possibly shift that much could it? My other guess would be compressed vs uncompressed textures.

acesausage · 9 Jan 2008 at 15:01

Big.Wayne said:
I doubt he has just bought that card new? maybe picked it up used for a good price?

Still some life in a 320MB 8800GTS yet?

acesausage: maybe try out 32-bit WinXP and see what happens?

Indeed £90 off a friend. Sound like XP is worth a stab so ill get on that.

muon · 9 Jan 2008 at 15:07

acesausage said:
Indeed £90 off a friend. Sound like XP is worth a stab so ill get on that.

Try putting post processing on medium and see what happens. Also make sure you're playing crysis in dx9 mode if you're not setting anything above high. To do this, go to your games explorer folder, right click on the crysis shortcut and youll see a dx9 mode option. It has better performance.

Big.Wayne · 9 Jan 2008 at 15:22

acesausage said:
sounds like XP is worth a stab so ill get on that.

Its funny, people just say certain things which produce a graphic image in my mind!

Scougar · 9 Jan 2008 at 15:42

I am by no means rich, so didn't assume he bought it new. He could however sell it for "more" than £90 and get a 512Mb 3850 brand new, and overclock that. That would allow him to run all setting on high no problem (at least in XP!!!).

Matthew