Stuttering in Crysis

[Big.Wayne]

That would allow him to run all setting on high no problem (at least in XP!!!).

Only just at 1280x1024 though with 0xAA, *HIGH* setting is a real killer!

WinXP 32-Bit - Conroe 2MB @ 2800MHz

Played the demo through a couple of time using medium settings, although I did have it at 1920x1200

I gather the full game and some of the later levels will drag the FPS even lower than it is in the charts!

CRYSIS vs. The Modern GPU (Part 1)

 

[acesausage]

Try putting post processing on medium and see what happens. Also make sure you're playing crysis in dx9 mode if you're not setting anything above high. To do this, go to your games explorer folder, right click on the crysis shortcut and youll see a dx9 mode option. It has better performance.

ive overclocked the gpu from 513/792 to 609/916. this gave me a jump form 22.5 fps in dx9 to 26.4 and definatly helped with the stuttering, it only does it on the first loop now rather than all 3 and far less.

i cant see a setting for post processing tho?

 

[pieman109]

my son's pc is:

E6300 @ 3.0ghz, 2 x 1gb geil ULL 6400, bfg 8800gts 320mb. Vista is the killer here. In XP he gets around 30ish frames lowest, and I've seen even as high 60ish in some instances. Average in 1st part of the game should be around 40-45 frames, that with in game settings at high, except for shadows, shaders, post processing, which are on medium with water reflections and sound quality on low. Those settings work fine at 1280 x 1024 btw. he "should" get well playable rates with rhose setting, but turning things down in the nvidia control panel can also gain a bit more here and there ingame. Also, the 8800gts is overclocked core, memory, and shaders but not massively.

 

[muon]

my son's pc is:

E6300 @ 3.0ghz, 2 x 1gb geil ULL 6400, bfg 8800gts 320mb. Vista is the killer here. In XP he gets around 30ish frames lowest, and I've seen even as high 60ish in some instances. Average in 1st part of the game should be around 40-45 frames, that with in game settings at high, except for shadows, shaders, post processing, which are on medium with water reflections and sound quality on low. Those settings work fine at 1280 x 1024 btw. he "should" get well playable rates with rhose setting, but turning things down in the nvidia control panel can also gain a bit more here and there ingame. Also, the 8800gts is overclocked core, memory, and shaders but not massively.

You lose a lot of quality turning shaders down to medium. The difference is huge.

 

[pieman109]

You lose a lot of quality turning shaders down to medium. The difference is huge.

Imho, I don't think you do lose that much. Sure it looks nicer but not that much (bit subjective I know), but what good is a game that looks pretty and runs like a dog. I'd rather have the latter and be abler to play it

 

[Big.Wayne]

I then moved and run the Crysis bench mark at high settings. The hang thing happend again but much more frequently during the bechmark. It then proceeded to crash and i had to end the program

You lose a lot of quality turning shaders down to medium. The difference is huge.

Imho, I don't think you do lose that much. Sure it looks nicer but not that much (bit subjective I know), but what good is a game that looks pretty and runs like a dog. I'd rather have the latter and be abler to play it

Thats the bottom line, people are fixated with maxing the graphics on a game with an engine designed to look good for years? I agree that there is something *magic* about pure HIGH setting but it means nothing unless you have smooth frames and the game doesn't crash!

I have the full version of the game now (xmas pressie nice!) and intend to play through it soon at 1920x1200/Medium, think it looks great. Medium of Crysis equals the high setting of most other games. I'm sure I will play through it again in the coming years when I get my new 52 card Super-Sli setup!

 

[Fire Wizard]

I started playing with all setting on high at 1280x1024. During the game ive noticed some stuttering. Periods of 5 secs where it hangs then upto 3 mins of play before it happens again.

I proceeded to turn everything to medium and there where no problems.

I then moved and run the Crysis bench mark at high settings. The hang thing happend again but much more frequently during the bechmark. It then proceeded to crash and i had to end the program

Hello acesausage, quite simply, your current Graphics Card just isn't good enough to run Crysis on high settings.

 

[pieman109]

Just as an excercise, I ran crysis on me sons pc and checked the framerate with fraps. At the very beginning when you walk out of the water, move along the waters edge untill you come across the three koreans, take them out then walk further along until you get the message that aztec is caught up in the trees I get a few occasions where it dips to the high 20/low 30 fps, but the rest of the time, its anything between 50 and 60 fps believe it or not. The second part I tried was where you first have to take out the gps jammer which in a little cove and you're on a small hill looking down on them. At that part I'm getting highs of 45-50fps and lows of 35-40 fps. Even with the lowest framerate, its still playable and smooth which seems to be a characteristic of crysis.
On top of that. me son has completed the game and said the only time it really lags is the snow/ice level, and the carrier part at the end.

 

[oweneades]

As others have said you simply don't have enough memory to run everything on high.

If you want to keep crysis looking its best or at least as close as possibly try dropping shadows and post processing down to medium.

Shadows I have found are a real killer in crysis even on my 768mb 8800GTX.

 

[pieman109]

Hello acesausage, quite simply, your current Graphics Card just isn't good enough to run Crysis on high settings.

Not in Vista it ain't but with a bit of tweaking the nvidia drivers, and turning certain in game options down a bit it will be when using XP.

 

[Fire Wizard]

Hello pieman109, if you would care to elaborate, that would be great.

Taking everything that acesausage has said. If he is running Crysis on high settings and the playability is poor and then turns some of the settings down and it runs absolutely fine, I honestly can't see anything else causing the slow down other than his 8800GT 320 simply can't handle running Crysis on high settings.

 

[pieman109]

Hello pieman109, if you would care to elaborate, that would be great.

Taking everything that acesausage has said. If he is running Crysis on high settings and the playability is poor and then turns some of the settings down and it runs absolutely fine, I honestly can't see anything else causing the slow down other than his 8800GT 320 simply can't handle running Crysis on high settings.

I'm totally convinced his problem is the fact hes running Vista as opposed to XP. Its a known fact XP is better for gaming than vista is atm, so if he has access to a copy of xp, my advice would be to instal it, and set the game up as suggested and give it a go. The 8800gts 320mb ain't that bad, it does need to overclocked and the drivers need to be optimised for the game. His system should run crysis reasonably well if he turns down shadows, shaders, post processing to medium, and sound quality, water reflections to low, all the rest can be set to high. I agree entirely his card won't handle crysis very well "in Vista" but like I said, give it a go in XP, he should be pleasantly suprised.

 

[acesausage]

Hello acesausage, quite simply, your current Graphics Card just isn't good enough to run Crysis on high settings.

Well i dissagree, but it is a challenge after much fiddiling around, im benching 27 fps average on high which isnt great but still playable. The stuttering has allmost gone since i took some of the suggestions posted.

In DX 10 it is unplayable or at least very very anoying, but in DX9 as shown below its doable. Thanks for the suggestions all its helped a lot.

 

[acesausage]

I'm totally convinced his problem is the fact hes running Vista as opposed to XP. Its a known fact XP is better for gaming than vista is atm, so if he has access to a copy of xp, my advice would be to instal it, and set the game up as suggested and give it a go. The 8800gts 320mb ain't that bad, it does need to overclocked and the drivers need to be optimised for the game. His system should run crysis reasonably well if he turns down shadows, shaders, post processing to medium, and sound quality, water reflections to low, all the rest can be set to high. I agree entirely his card won't handle crysis very well "in Vista" but like I said, give it a go in XP, he should be pleasantly suprised.

Where can i set post processing my friend? is it in Riva Tuner or the Nvida control panal or in Crysis?

Many thanks

 

[Fire Wizard]

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Hello pieman109, unless acesausage is forcing Crysis to play in DirectX 9, he will be playing it in DirectX 10 by default. Now simply switching Operating System's will give very inconclusive results if this is the case because, when comparing a game on two different Operating System platforms, the test conditions need to be as similar as possible i.e. the exact same settings, resolution and DirectX architecture.

Now for arguments sake, say acesausage was playing Crysis in DirectX 9 when using Windows Vista and on the high settings. The results were that the frames per second were pretty low and the only way to boost the frames per second is to lower the settings down to medium. I would be generally surprised and pretty shocked actually that if he switches to Windows XP, he would then be able to play Crysis on high settings perfectly well. I honestly can't see that happening though.

Windows XP may still be slightly ahead as regards to playing games. However, certainly not to the extent where you can change the settings so dramatically, i.e. Medium to High settings.

Now feel free to say otherwise but please if you can, show me some evidence that backs up your statements. Admittedly, I cannot backup anything that I have just said specifically in regards to Crysis performing near enough the same on Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, may I direct you here. It would be greatly appreciated if you had a read through that particularly article and I will be very interested in hearing your reply.

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Hello acesausage, what I said wasn't perfectly clear so I do apologize. What I should have said was more along the lines off, the 8800GTS 320 can't simply play Crysis in DirectX 10 on high settings. Now when running under DirectX 9, it is a completely different situation, you may and probably will find that you can play on much higher settings to that of when running Crysis in DirectX 10.

Sorry I wasn't perfectly clear in the first place.

 

[Skyboat]

Vista is really catching up performance-wise with every driver update and hotfix.

 

[Gashman]

crysis feels smoother on DX10 for me than DX9, using 1.1 and most recent omega drivers

 

[pieman109]

Hello pieman109, unless acesausage is forcing Crysis to play in DirectX 9, he will be playing it in DirectX 10 by default. Now simply switching Operating System's will give very inconclusive results if this is the case because, when comparing a game on two different Operating System platforms, the test conditions need to be as similar as possible i.e. the exact same settings, resolution and DirectX architecture.

Now for arguments sake, say acesausage was playing Crysis in DirectX 9 when using Windows Vista and on the high settings. The results were that the frames per second were pretty low and the only way to boost the frames per second is to lower the settings down to medium. I would be generally surprised and pretty shocked actually that if he switches to Windows XP, he would then be able to play Crysis on high settings perfectly well. I honestly can't see that happening though.

Windows XP may still be slightly ahead as regards to playing games. However, certainly not to the extent where you can change the settings so dramatically, i.e. Medium to High settings.

Now feel free to say otherwise but please if you can, show me some evidence that backs up your statements. Admittedly, I cannot backup anything that I have just said specifically in regards to Crysis performing near enough the same on Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, may I direct you here. It would be greatly appreciated if you had a read through that particularly article and I will be very interested in hearing your reply.



Hello acesausage, what I said wasn't perfectly clear so I do apologize. What I should have said was more along the lines off, the 8800GTS 320 can't simply play Crysis in DirectX 10 on high settings. Now when running under DirectX 9, it is a completely different situation, you may and probably will find that you can play on much higher settings to that of when running Crysis in DirectX 10.

Sorry I wasn't perfectly clear in the first place.

I hear where your coming from that if he is running under DX9 in Vista his framerate is lower than would normally be expected. I can only speak as I find, 'frinstance I get better performance playing crysis in xp than I do in vista using the pc in me sig, so I tend to use that for all me gaming thus far. I also don't think that performance under DX9 in vista would be the same as DX9 in XP otherwise loadsa ppl here would be using vista and not XP to game with. If I play crysis in vista I get lower fps than I do in XP. I generally take a simplistic view of running games inasmuch as I use what gives me the best results. I suggested that he try xp and see how he gets on as it should (and certainly does in my case) give an improved performance. wether it looks slightly better in vista than xp for instance is something that I haven't noticed and I have tried to see if there is any.
If he can, I maintain that he at least gives it go and see how he gets on, taking into account the settings I suggested, ie: everything on high EXCEPT shadows, shaders, post processing these to be at medium these are the options that I find kill performance.

I will add that crysis is the only game I have a problem running when using vista. All other games run perfectly well, I use XP as my gaming o/s of choice

 

[pieman109]

Where can i set post processing my friend? is it in Riva Tuner or the Nvida control panal or in Crysis?

Many thanks

Post processing is in the crysis "system settings">advanced> right hand column about half way down. In the nvidia drivers control panel (I think its called that) set:

AA transparency to "multisampling"
force mipmaps to "bilinear"
negative lod bias to "allow"
texture filtering to "quality" or "performance" (whichever give you acceptable appearance/performance)

If that doesn't work well enough, I'd still say try an XP instal and see how you get on, nothing to lose and you should get some gains.

 

[acesausage]

Post processing is in the crysis "system settings">advanced> right hand column about half way down. In the nvidia drivers control panel (I think its called that) set:

AA transparency to "multisampling"
force mipmaps to "bilinear"
negative lod bias to "allow"
texture filtering to "quality" or "performance" (whichever give you acceptable appearance/performance)

If that doesn't work well enough, I'd still say try an XP instal and see how you get on, nothing to lose and you should get some gains.

Thanks a lot mate, this has helped no end am pushng 55fps with these and i can hardly tell the differance in quality.