Driving Manoeuvres

[Dashik]

I think if your only doing it for the profit your in the wrong job m8.

Sorry I seem to have hit a nerve for some reason ::

Why did you ask then? You thinking about becoming an ADI?

LOL, I can assure you I dont do it just to make a profit but I AM allowed to make a profit am I not? Its not that you have hit a nerve at all, Its just the fact that people seem to resent ADI's actually making money in the job

For what its worth I haver never had a job like it. I love the different people I meet. I love the fact that I can actually make a difference and maybe even stop someone becoming a statistic and you have no idea how satisfying it is when they pass. Equally I get a bit peeved when the occasionally fail due to doing something daft!

I cant think of a job to match it for job satisfaction. Flexibility and general enjoyment.

I get paid to tell somebody how to drive me around the country in a nice car enjoying myself. How good is that?

 

[Clarkey]

why keep stopping doing a reverse around a corner? No need to stop at all, if anything it will make you look like a nervous idiot who hasn't the confidence to pull off a simple manouvre . Deffo don't indicate either.

 

[The Edge]

why keep stopping doing a reverse around a corner? No need to stop at all, if anything it will make you look like a nervous idiot who hasn't the confidence to pull off a simple manouvre . Deffo don't indicate either.

Becasue it makes it obvious you're looking around. You don't have to keep stopping, but stop and look everywhere before you turn the wheel. I didn't on my first three tests and failed on obs. On the one i passed i stopped three times.

 

[iBot]

You should stop to make clear observation, If a car is approaching you from behind and your reversing you stop and wait for them to pass.

 

[Dashik]

You should stop to make clear observation, If a car is approaching you from behind and your reversing you stop and wait for them to pass.

When should you stop to observe then? And why?

I would suggest that you try to resist giving too specific advice. How many tests have you done? What qualifies you to teach?I take people to test all the time. You risk giving misleading, if well intentioned, advice. I hear stories from adi's and pupils about there friends giving advice on how to pass the test all the time. 99% of the hints are usually useless.

I'm not being nasty or picky, its just easy to give the wrong information.

Once you move back to the point of turn at the end of the first straight reverse then you can stop and apply the handbrake.

You then Prepare, Observe and move. This ensures that you look around the car before you steer and put the nose out wide. Unless anything else comes down the road or out of the junction you don't normally need to stop unless you think you are about to go wide or hit the kerb or you are letting the car get a bit fast.

It is possible to fail for taking to long as well as going too fast.

You need to demonstrate good control and observation during the manouver.

 

[mjt]

have i missed something?
why should you not indicate why reversing?

does this only apply to reversing round corners in your test, or do you mean while parallel parking for example?

 

[Dashik]

have i missed something?
why should you not indicate why reversing?

does this only apply to reversing round corners in your test, or do you mean while parallel parking for example?

Think about it. What way are cars moving when they indicate normally? Forwards. So you expect them to turn left or right in a forwards direction. Reversing lights are specifically to let people know you are reversing or about to reverse. A combination of the two will confuse people.

Other drivers are more likely to think you have left the signal on by mistake. Also its not a clear signal so therefore not reccommended.

 

[mrk]

But you could equally be reversing right/left/back which would confuse oncoming drivers equally but an indication in the direction you intend to go would be helpful no doubt?

I know for a fact that if I saw someone reverse lights on at night I'd assume they were reversing backwards instead of turning in somewhere and the people I've stopped for a few times in the past have signalled allowing me to see where they intend to go so I can maybe back up a bit if they have distance to cover etc.

Seems like the most logical thing to do.

 

[James07]

5. Keep reversing around the corner but make sure you watch in the left door mirror (while occasionally looking behind you) and watch the gap between the curb correcting when according. Stop every so often checking around the vehicle.

Ive been told ill get failed if im seen doing it that way, your supposed to look behind you at all times, not even glancing at your mirror is allowed as your vehicle is going backwards.

Once stationary then your free to get out the car look around if you do so wish to, just nothing but looking behind you once your moving.

And to be honest, to be safe, do that. Use a certain point of your back window (we use a sticker in the learner car) to determine where the car should be, like the D of the sticker (ENGLAND) should be on the curb by the end of the manouver.

You can always stop, once your straightening up to see if its inline or not. You can always pull in or push it out depending on how your vehicle is looking.

2 more things are, once stationary 1-2 feet from the curb, literarly as soon asyou stop, put it in reverse, even if you are stopping for 2 mins, that way any car that comes knows what you are planning on doing, and then, DONT indicate as they think your pulled into the side of the road.

 

[Clarkey]

Ive been told ill get failed if im seen doing it that way, your supposed to look behind you at all times, not even glancing at your mirror is allowed as your vehicle is going backwards.

Once stationary then your free to get out the car look around if you do so wish to, just nothing but looking behind you once your moving.

And to be honest, to be safe, do that. Use a certain point of your back window (we use a sticker in the learner car) to determine where the car should be, like the D of the sticker (ENGLAND) should be on the curb by the end of the manouver.

You can always stop, once your straightening up to see if its inline or not. You can always pull in or push it out depending on how your vehicle is looking.

2 more things are, once stationary 1-2 feet from the curb, literarly as soon asyou stop, put it in reverse, even if you are stopping for 2 mins, that way any car that comes knows what you are planning on doing, and then, DONT indicate as they think your pulled into the side of the road.

rubbish, no way you can line up with the kerb without using the side mirror, you just need to look out of the rear for the vast majority of the manouver, looking around every now and again to take observations, one of which would be your distance from the kerb, in the side mirror.

 

[Stellios]

Easiest answer is practice!

Look in *** direction you are travelling, adn before using any of the controls at any point, check all your mirrors and look around to make sure of nothing coming.

Parallel parking is pretty easy, and the way you are taught compensate for large spaces IMO, so yes stick with what you are told while learning, but be prepared when you pass to have to adapt that theory for tight spots.

As for reversing around a corner, look where you are going, not in your mirror. If you look into your mirror constantly you will more than likely fail as you are watching the direct road where you currently are, not where you are going, so whilt using the mirrors is needed, I wouldnt use it as your reference for the turn.

 

[Stellios]

Think about it. What way are cars moving when they indicate normally? Forwards. So you expect them to turn left or right in a forwards direction. Reversing lights are specifically to let people know you are reversing or about to reverse. A combination of the two will confuse people.

OK, situation. You are on a busy road and pull alongside a car to parallel park into a bay, but you have traffic behind you and stopping may cause them to just stop too, whats the correct thing to do? Usually ill just whack my indicator on whilst stopped waiting to make the manouvre so people can use common sense why ive stopped, I used to whack my hazzards on so people knew to pass, but stopped that after a few months.

 

[mjt]

^^
it is silly NOT to indicate imo.
i always indicate when reversing parallel parking into a space
as mrk said above, if i see someone with reverse lights and no indicators, i assume they are going in a straight line. if they then go turn, i'd be annoyed

i have to disagree with you dashik.
i can't see how indicators and reverse lights give mixed signals.
reverse lights and indicators means, "oh look, he's reversing and he's going left/right"

mixed signals is someone have their reverse lights on while moving forwards!

 

[James07]

rubbish, no way you can line up with the kerb without using the side mirror, you just need to look out of the rear for the vast majority of the manouver, looking around every now and again to take observations, one of which would be your distance from the kerb, in the side mirror.

Dude i do it, i can just tell by the back of the car how close it is, im usually less than a foot from the curb, its not perfect but its a pass. My instructor tells me its fine, his students pass the same way that im looking to do so, its the sticker, if you know exactly where to look, i turn the car until the D is right on the curb and then pull the wheel straight and roll it back, once ive straightended i do stop and then glance at the mirror, but your not allowed to when drinving backwards.

 

[DanTheMan]

Also, dont'get get carried away if you perfect a manouver and forget to check your blind spot when setting off again .

 

[The Edge]

All this talk of whether or not to indicate is silly and irrelevent. Examiners do not want you to indicate therefore if you want to pass don't indicate while reversing. Simple!

Once you've passed you can do what you like

 

[Scania]

rubbish, no way you can line up with the kerb without using the side mirror

How do you think articulated truck drivers line up when reversing "Blind side" thats to say when the view from the nearside mirror is obscured by the trailer due to the angle of the tractor unit?

It just takes practice.

Indicators whilst reversing? that'll be the hazzard lights then.

 

[Dashik]

But you could equally be reversing right/left/back which would confuse oncoming drivers equally but an indication in the direction you intend to go would be helpful no doubt?

I know for a fact that if I saw someone reverse lights on at night I'd assume they were reversing backwards instead of turning in somewhere and the people I've stopped for a few times in the past have signalled allowing me to see where they intend to go so I can maybe back up a bit if they have distance to cover etc.

Seems like the most logical thing to do.

If you assume stuff your going to end up dead. YOU DO NOT NEED TO INDICATE WHEN REVERSING how much clearer can I be? Whos the ADI here? If I need help with something I ask the relevant expert. I charge my pupils enough for this so this is free instruction. Take the hint.

 

[Dashik]

Ive been told ill get failed if im seen doing it that way, your supposed to look behind you at all times, not even glancing at your mirror is allowed as your vehicle is going backwards.

Once stationary then your free to get out the car look around if you do so wish to, just nothing but looking behind you once your moving.

And to be honest, to be safe, do that. Use a certain point of your back window (we use a sticker in the learner car) to determine where the car should be, like the D of the sticker (ENGLAND) should be on the curb by the end of the manouver.

You can always stop, once your straightening up to see if its inline or not. You can always pull in or push it out depending on how your vehicle is looking.

2 more things are, once stationary 1-2 feet from the curb, literarly as soon asyou stop, put it in reverse, even if you are stopping for 2 mins, that way any car that comes knows what you are planning on doing, and then, DONT indicate as they think your pulled into the side of the road.

It is perfectly safe to have a look around the car if you are moving nice and slowly. How long do you think it Actually takes to check for other road users or pedestrians? Not long and the car might have moved a foot or 2 in that time.

IF your instructor is teaching like that then thats fine. Do what he tells you.

Its all about control.

 

[Dashik]

Easiest answer is practice!

Look in *** direction you are travelling, adn before using any of the controls at any point, check all your mirrors and look around to make sure of nothing coming.

Parallel parking is pretty easy, and the way you are taught compensate for large spaces IMO, so yes stick with what you are told while learning, but be prepared when you pass to have to adapt that theory for tight spots.

As for reversing around a corner, look where you are going, not in your mirror. If you look into your mirror constantly you will more than likely fail as you are watching the direct road where you currently are, not where you are going, so whilt using the mirrors is needed, I wouldnt use it as your reference for the turn.

Correct Some good stuff in there.