Vista successor in 2009

As Ed Bott says you always have people resisting the change and it will be the same for every version of Windows and Vista is not different

Personally i don't resist change, i just don't want to pay a big wad of cash for it unless it's a huge change :p

If MS are going to move on/back to a 2 year OS cycle then i'd like to see them reduce their prices a bit.
 
Personally i don't resist change, i just don't want to pay a big wad of cash for it unless it's a huge change :p

If MS are going to move on/back to a 2 year OS cycle then i'd like to see them reduce their prices a bit.
Although with a 2 - 3 year cycle there's a good chance all but the most fanatical upgraders will only go through a single motherboard in which case Vista OEM for 60 something quid isn't exactly expensive.
 
A fresh install of vista & a lot of files on the hard drive should not take take days

your verging into fanboy territory there

how quickly a PC index's its file depends entirely upon how often its switched on

if its only switched on for an hour or two every couple of days, it could take weeks :)

and crucially, how many indexable files they've got. If they've got about 10gbs worth of photo album for example, it will take longer as thats a lot of images to index :)
 
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I know they do usability testing but did they forget what they learned when they produced Office 2007? I mean it is a tough learning curve an d there is even a company producing an add-on to make it look like previous versions so I suspect not many people have liked it.
 
That statement borders on the ridiculous, they probably spend more on UAT and usability testing than software company in the world.

Come on, Vista is appauling for this. Everything hidden in endless menus and stupid shortcuts on the left of the window-pane, it feels like nothing is at your fingertips. It's rubbish, XP was easy to navigate for people who arent computer savvy. Vista made it harder.
 
Come on, Vista is appauling for this. Everything hidden in endless menus and stupid shortcuts on the left of the window-pane, it feels like nothing is at your fingertips. It's rubbish, XP was easy to navigate for people who arent computer savvy. Vista made it harder.

I couldn't disagree more. I think Vista has come on leaps and bounds from XP for the computer-illiterate. Granted there's more to learn with vista as the OS does more than XP does, but the 'endless menus' and 'stupid shortcuts' I think are a lot more suited to computer illiterate people.

There are more ways to find what you're looking for. I think these menus are far more efficient than the old 'File', 'View', 'Tools' menus of XP - which I doubt the computer illiterate would ever touch as the titles 'File', 'View' and 'Tools' distinctly lack any decent description of precisely why you should click them.
 
your verging into fanboy territory there

how quickly a PC index's its file depends entirely upon how often its switched on

if its only switched on for an hour or two every couple of days, it could take weeks :)

and crucially, how many indexable files they've got. If they've got about 10gbs worth of photo album for example, it will take longer as thats a lot of images to index :)

I don't know where you got that fanboy idea from plus you have taken my comment out of context by leaving out the part about leaving it on when not in use making it look like it should not take days with normal usage with allot of people switch on use & switch off which i have never done & that may explain why i have not noticed this activity .
I have 4x500GB in RAID 0x4way stripe & 2x500 backup.
And i already said it could take allot of timed if they keep turning the PC off so whats your point.
 
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And i already said it could take allot of timed if they keep turning the PC off so whats your point.

you only put that after you edited the post

ffs man this is the internet. You forgot to mention something, just take it like a man.

dont just edit your post and then try and say im taking your post out of context. the time and date it was edited is there for all to see
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As an avid amateur photographer I find Vista a much better OS than XP purely based on this reason:

When someone asks me for a print or wants a wallpaper res image of a photo I shot for example or when a family member or relative asks for a photo in large res I just ask them what the filename is of the photo they saw online. I then just go to my photo archive folder and punch in the number (or first few) and it will list all files matching that filename even with indexing turned off. On a 16MB SATAII disk searching is not slow too.

Video

That alone is reason enough for my upgrade to Vista, and Aero ^_^
 
Apple make a lot of money from refreshing their OS every so often and calling it a new version, even though it's only minor updates and some standard applications being added in or replaced.

I can see MS jumping on this bandwagon, so it wouldn't surprise me if we see Windows 7 in 2009. Personally I hope they change the name, always hated it. Since Apple have the big cats why dont they have the small dogs? like.. Dachshund 2009 or Shih Tzu 2010
 
Personally I hope they change the name, always hated it. Since Apple have the big cats why dont they have the small dogs? like.. Dachshund 2009 or Shih Tzu 2010

:D :D Oh, too funny... Chihuahua Home Premium...
 
Apple make a lot of money from refreshing their OS every so often and calling it a new version, even though it's only minor updates and some standard applications being added in or replaced.
It's a bit more than minor updates to be fair, except possibly the last release.
 
I think people are forgetting how long it took most companies to migrate to XP... At work we moved from NT4 to XP in about 2005, so we skipped W2k completely and took XP after 4 years...

We only switched from NT4 to XP last year, and we still have several dozen stand alone machines running off-network NT4 because of proprietry software and hardware that will not run on anything else, for instance lots of our data aquisition gear still requires ISO cards.

Talking to our IT staff they cannot ever see us switching OS on those machines, as it would be too costly for us to develop new hardware, software and firmware in-house, capable of running on a different OS.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if we get a quiet release a la W98 2nd edition. The name 'Vista' reminds me of landscape rendering software I had for my Amiga. Took about an hour to render a single frame that was graphically on par with the original Delta Force game. I thought it was wonderful at the time.
 
I couldn't disagree more. I think Vista has come on leaps and bounds from XP for the computer-illiterate. Granted there's more to learn with vista as the OS does more than XP does, but the 'endless menus' and 'stupid shortcuts' I think are a lot more suited to computer illiterate people.

I've honestly not come across one person who has found this to be the case. 5 people I know (and who are definately NOT computer savvy) have moved to Vista (new PC's) and are finding it really difficult to pick up and run with.

On the other hand, my father running XP at work and home for about 5 years has found making the change to Mac OSX easier than moving to Vista. I put this down to how OS X behaves more in line with how a user thinks.
A prime example of this is how if I drag a file and want to place it 3 directories down a tree.
With OS X I simply drag and hover the file over the directory each time, boom, boom, boom, done.
In Vista I hover over a folder (in explorer), nothing happens. MS kinda have the right idea if I place it over a drive/network share, it traverses into it and lists the contents, but I still cant go down from the top level of it.

It's the little things. I would have thought MS could at least tell some random guy to sit down at the PC and simply move files around for a couple of days then report back on what he thinks was rubbish. Then pay him a big wad of cash and give him a pat on the back. Instead they probably got some guy to do that but he ****** off to play on his Xbox instead of doing what was asked of him :p
 
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Hopefully this 'Windows 7' is just going to be a system update for Vista users because the peoople who shell out for Vista... Well is it really worth it? The more and more Microsoft mess about the more people are going to be converted to mac or linux.

Andr3w1984
 
The more and more Microsoft mess about the more people are going to be converted to mac or linux.

Andr3w1984

Great idea. Microsoft shouldn't change anything; XP was a great OS, so why make changes. Lets keep it for another 6 years or even more. We don't need new technologies or innovations, it worked fine and you know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

:rolleyes:

Burnsy
 
Hopefully this 'Windows 7' is just going to be a system update for Vista users because the peoople who shell out for Vista... Well is it really worth it? The more and more Microsoft mess about the more people are going to be converted to mac or linux.

Andr3w1984

So you think it's good that Apple release what would considered to be a service pack in the MS eco system and charge for it? That's amazing customer service i'd best buy a Mac!
 
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