Yes I thought it was something like that, around 150 extra a day. A lot of women really do use it as an excuse I find, I've had 3 children in 5 years and never put on that much.
Do you find overweight people attractive?
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Yes I thought it was something like that, around 150 extra a day. A lot of women really do use it as an excuse I find, I've had 3 children in 5 years and never put on that much.
Well yeah there's got to be a bit of that.
At the height of my weight (err...), I was indeed unhappy. Suddenly it didn't look like me in the mirror or in photos any more. But up until then I'd managed to get over the weight gain and be contented anyway, although always hoping against hopes that I'd stop growing outwards...
At the last visit to the doctor, as I am now under the obesity BMI and in the 'overweight' zone, he asked me what size I'd like to be, where I'd like to stop. I won't just balance out by myself, I'll just have to moderate medicine and food at the level I am happy with.
You know, I couldn't answer him easily, as I'm not /un/happy now. Almost feels like I'm cheating if I keep going, like wanting myself to be slim is a shallow thing to want. Very confusing.
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Nature has a couple of rules of note in this topic:
1. Women want to be slim and have big norks to make them attractive to men. Men generally prefer them to be slim and have big norks.
2. Men want to be tall and strong, not weedy looking effeminate types, to make them more attractive to women. Women generally prefer tall and strong men.
People who, by their own nature, are rebellious/non-conformist, tend to rear against those rules of nature and deny them. They're the sort of people you get in threads who seem all indignant and politically correct, defending the honour of tubsters.
1. Women want to be slim and have big norks to make them attractive to men. Men generally prefer them to be slim and have big norks.
2. Men want to be tall and strong, not weedy looking effeminate types, to make them more attractive to women. Women generally prefer tall and strong men.
People who, by their own nature, are rebellious/non-conformist, tend to rear against those rules of nature and deny them. They're the sort of people you get in threads who seem all indignant and politically correct, defending the honour of tubsters.
Unless you're Mr Muscle, you're not slim!
That's my height; I lift weights, have little fat, and I'm just over 12 stones. I have three friends who are my exact height, and they're all between 10.5 and 11.5 stones. They all look average build.
I've always considered myself average/mildly toned.
I don't go to the gym, but I have the same genes as my dad and brother, we can eat as much of whatever we like and never gain any weight.
I've been this weight for 7 years now, lol.
I only said slim as more and more people say I am slim.
30" waist, 32" legs, about 8% body fat. I think I have heavy bones, lol
I would imagine that the adolescent mindset belongs to you. Thinking you'd score points by being all ethical and saying that people who find fat people unattactive are immature.
Well read the thread, butterball. Me and many others think similarly. Fat is not attractive. It's the people who say, "she's fat - she's gorgeous!" whose reasoning I question most.
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Wow, I take it back! You are slim, though I don't understand how you can be that heavy at your height & size.
Hmm I don't think it's shallow wanting to be thin if that's the weight you'd feel happy at. It depends what you want really. I'm sure I saw a photo you posted recently, dressed in swing gear? You certainly don't look overweight imo. To be honest I don't think most people are ever totally happy with the way they look, I'm not myself but that's just the way I am really. I used to be a lot thinner than I am now, about a stone, I saw a photo of myself the other day from then and I looked far too thin it was horrible. At the time though I thought I was fat
Wow, I take it back! You are slim, though I don't understand how you can be that heavy at your height & size.
Neither do I, hahaha
Heavy bones is the only explanation I can think of.
I'm not overly muscular, just nicely toned, slight six-pack, etc.
I really lucked out in the genes department I think
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Flab is a complete turn off, I could never go out with someone who doesn't respect themselves enough to keep in shape.
Right I haven't read every single post here but I would like to say that I have been very over weight most of my adult life and always on this diet or that diet and them not really working so in november 2006 I had a gastric bypass (private so no cost to NHS) and since then have lost 5 stone, this is not cheating, this is reaching the end of my tether, being fat is not attractive to anyone, you become invisible, people judge you before you have even spoken, in all it's horrible. This operation allows me to get some control of my life and every day i feel better about the future. I don't know why allowed my self to get so fat but of course the fatter i got the more depressed i got, the more i would eat. The operation is reversable if you want it to be but why would anyone have it reversed?
Not quite, the media has managed to convince society that that is what we like.
From a nature viewpoint, bigger women = more food, healthier, more fertile.
Ancient Greeks, Romans, even British from just over 100 years ago preferred voluptuous women.
Modern day media and fashion created the whole size zero thing.
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But size zero is equally unattractive, theres is a happy medium.
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I really like it, I think she’s hot, I still find some thinner women attractive. But I do prefer the bigger woman, not the ones with rolls of fat spewing over their pants and 4 chins. There is a bit of a difference and I'm not ashamed to admit to it.
Me too. Same caveats as you said above, but in general I prefer woman with a few curves and would find myself attracted more to a woman with a few extra curves over a woman whose ribs stuck out.
However, I find personality far more important. My wife has gone up and down the weight scale (but never obese) and it hasn't bothered me. She is and was the woman I love and it's up to her when she realises she needs to lose weight not me.
Ergo we like it. Your reasoning contradicts itself.
Every society is effected by its times and culture. You could say that Greeks and Romans were 'convinced' that they found fat people attractive because there was an abundance of fat people. It's all relative.
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Curves are great, skinny is a big no no for me, but obese/fat nope can't deal with it. I put the effort in to look after my body and keep in good shape, I eat well and I work over 12hrs a day - there's no excuse for anyone to let their bodies "go". None whatsoever. It's pure laziness end of. I could never be with someone that didn't take their health seriously. Overly narcissistic attitudes are a turn off though, but some personal improvement and maintenance is a huge turn on for me.
There are a lot of attractive people out there that are overweight, and if they shed the fat they would be absolutely stunning, I can see that however I wouldn't instinctively or wantingly seek out someone like that.
There are a lot of attractive people out there that are overweight, and if they shed the fat they would be absolutely stunning, I can see that however I wouldn't instinctively or wantingly seek out someone like that.
Interesting how people change! Both physically and in how they perceive things.Hmm I don't think it's shallow wanting to be thin if that's the weight you'd feel happy at. It depends what you want really. I'm sure I saw a photo you posted recently, dressed in swing gear? You certainly don't look overweight imo. To be honest I don't think most people are ever totally happy with the way they look, I'm not myself but that's just the way I am really. I used to be a lot thinner than I am now, about a stone, I saw a photo of myself the other day from then and I looked far too thin it was horrible. At the time though I thought I was fat
Oh probably the one with the moosive swingy trousers, heee
No I'm always lucky to have kepts boobs and bum (thus making me acceptable in the eyes of the lads in this thread, it seems), and therefore never looking like a big round butterball. But I'm still overweight in the eyes of the BMI and still up near the top of that zone.Myself and doc came to the conclusion that we shall aim for 10st/BMI:25 for me, and see what that's like. I think I'd prob be happy there. I was a wonderful shape at age 15 and 9 stone BUT I'm older, more muscular, and am bound to have more curve to my body now, so it'll be interesting to see what 10 stone looks like.
I am EXTREMELY lucky to be a happy person and fairly content with my body (well, not at 13st but am fixing it now). I have some beautiful slim female friends that have terrible relationships with food and their mirrors, and they're quite jealous of my state of mind.
Back on topic - Hrrrmmm, I'm partial to the odd stocky chap, but not if they're totally inactive in life
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I don't think it's cheating, I think it's pretty brave. The pull of the downward (upward?) spiral can be very strong, and your brain and body then starts to work against you, not to mention society. Kudos to you for taking the big jump.
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I'm not talking about size zero, I'm talking about size ten!
It's all well and good you spouting that, but how do you reconcile it with the fact that I physically find slim women with big norks more attractive? No offence, but I trust my knob over your pseudo-intellectual reasoning about me being supposedly impressioned from a young age by a media conspiracy.
It's the same for all my male friends. I've discussed the matter time and again with them, and apart from one we all think:
size 12 = slightly larger than we'd like but good enough
size 10 = spot on
size 8 = slightly thinner than we'd like but good enough
The odd one out prefers size 8, doesn't mind size 10, and "she'd have to have a nice boat" for size 12.
define attractive!!!
you're not good looking just because you're stick thin, there's lots of average looking women with normal/thin bodies.
i'd take a cute face on a body with a few kilos over an anorexic with a face like a shovel anyday of the week, but then peer pressure isn't something that affects me unlike a lot of ppl.
in general i find ppl who have that kind of tunnel vision too shallow to waste my time on, boring prats
really obese is a different story.
you're not good looking just because you're stick thin, there's lots of average looking women with normal/thin bodies.
i'd take a cute face on a body with a few kilos over an anorexic with a face like a shovel anyday of the week, but then peer pressure isn't something that affects me unlike a lot of ppl.
in general i find ppl who have that kind of tunnel vision too shallow to waste my time on, boring prats
really obese is a different story.
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