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[Fud]Nvidia's next gen, will be hotter than the GX2

dont see how past crappiness or not of ATi affects if nVidia is lining up a dog as far as power and heat go.
If it runs very hot it will likely have lower lifetime and not be overclockable to any great extent without water or better. Could be a bit of a monster, and basically if ati only matches its speed with a cooler, less power hungry core it spells a lot of trouble for nvidia. If they can't get close enough though buy shares in custom cooling companies :p
 
Gerard said:
Oh god now a card thats meant to compete with the gts is considered flagship product. Ati stated back then that heat and power draw were the reasons that a more complex faster version wasn't possible. And for their high end solution they also stated that crossfired 2900's would provide what people wanted.

Bottom line was the 2900xt was a competitor to the gts, NOT the gtx nomatter what way you spin it. And it certainly was no "flagship product" flagship is always the superhigh end expensive card, the 2900xt was neither superhigh end or very expensive. They simply never had one this time around.
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you simply dont understand what "flagship product" means
 
We also know that the GT200 is going to run hotter than the 9800GX2 dual chip card with two G92’s inside and that is quite a challenge.
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Really they know that do they.
They must have a crystal ball.

Now a GPU core with a billion transistors i'm all ovet that :)
 
Gerard said:
Oh god now a card thats meant to compete with the gts is considered flagship product. Ati stated back then that heat and power draw were the reasons that a more complex faster version wasn't possible. And for their high end solution they also stated that crossfired 2900's would provide what people wanted.

Bottom line was the 2900xt was a competitor to the gts, NOT the gtx nomatter what way you spin it. And it certainly was no "flagship product" flagship is always the superhigh end expensive card, the 2900xt was neither superhigh end or very expensive. They simply never had one this time around.
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in modern language flagship literally mean most important, or leader of a group. was the 2900xt the fastest card ati had at the time? well that means it was their flagship then.
 
bee said:
you simply dont understand what "flagship product" means
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Whatever you say
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is this the monster that will be more than 2x quicker than a GTX? :D

The winner all depends on who is quickest, simple as.

if more games are made to take advantage of multiple gpu cores then ATI win. if games arent then its obvious nvidia will win. it might be one of those things that happened with doom 3 & hl2 benchmarks at the time, some games will run much better on one card than the other and vice versa.

But i really hope that isnt the case because it would suck.. unless the game that runs good is rubbish of course
 
The 2900 XT was AMD's top of the range card, so it was their flagship, now its the X2. :)

Your flagship card, is your best card.
 
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Sinny said:
Maybe this is where nvidia will stop using air and start using water as stock.:cool:
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Can't see it but it would be cool for an internal project but would be hard to implement I'd think.

I wonder if this card is not out yet because Nvidia are trying to get this GX2 up to scratch?. They have had more than plenty of time to come up with something during the delays from AMD/ATI in the R600 round. For AMD/ATI to bring out the first dual card is a little bit embarrassing for Nvidia. Just goes to show what Nvidia will do with a comfortable lead. Get as much money as they can and stuff what the customer wants :(. The g92 core with a 384bit interface could have been out last year and sat above the Ultra and GTX but all we seen was weaker cards. We need AMD/ATI to push Nvidia as that's the only time they try which is a poor sign of a company that has totally turned around since the 7series.
 
Gerard said:
Oh god now a card thats meant to compete with the gts is considered flagship product. Ati stated back then that heat and power draw were the reasons that a more complex faster version wasn't possible. And for their high end solution they also stated that crossfired 2900's would provide what people wanted.

Bottom line was the 2900xt was a competitor to the gts, NOT the gtx nomatter what way you spin it. And it certainly was no "flagship product" flagship is always the superhigh end expensive card, the 2900xt was neither superhigh end or very expensive. They simply never had one this time around.
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Erm, your flagship product is the best product you have, regardless of whether it is better than the competitions.

At the time, the 2900xt was ATI's flagship product.
 
Can we drop this flagship thing and move on now folks please as this thread is about Nvidia's new card and not ATI's R600.
 
I know everyone wants a new kickass tech but I would be happy with a nvidia DX10.1 range as Vista SP1 is due out soon (seeing as I am upgrading soon).
 
Most people don't have water though... But again, as long as the cooler which is provided on the card does the job and the card doesn't crash, it really doesn't matter how hot it gets imo.
 
Even if it gets to 100 degrees under load I dont care tbh, as if its doing that with the stock cooler NV obviously knows its fine at that temp and nothing to worry about. Everyone going on about the 8800GT's getting to 90 degrees underload, nothing wrong with it, at that temp they operate fine, when they get up to 95+ though It crashes, but I think NV will do a good job of the dual slot cooler.
 
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