Clio Cup's

digitalwolf · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:00

I've always wondered why you would want a 172/182bhp Renault Clio without ABS.

Chucking that ammount of power in a little car is a bit mad. Selecting the one with no ABS is more than mad though haha!

Do people put ABS on the cup's or something? Doesn't seem logical to me

L0rdMike · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:00

But if you drive pro like you wont need abs.

Gaygle · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:01

IIRC The 182 Cup had ABS as an option as well as other things, however the 172 Cup had very few options.

It was all done in the interest of saving weight.

digitalwolf · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:31

A car that can hit 0-60 in 6.7s needs to stop pretty quickly though surely? ABS makes more sense than brakes that will lock up.

penski · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:45

digitalwolf said:
A car that can hit 0-60 in 6.7s needs to stop pretty quickly though surely? ABS makes more sense than brakes that will lock up.

I have ABS. It's called my right foot.

*n

MrMatteh · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:52

penski said:
I have ABS. It's called my right foot.

*n

wow, must be impressive to see it modulate the brakes as quick as ABS.. as well as EBD control

Gaygle · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:56

MrMatteh said:
wow, must be impressive to see it modulate the brakes as quick as ABS.. as well as EBD control

well, it is Penski....

penski · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:00

MrMatteh said:
wow, must be impressive to see it modulate the brakes as quick as ABS.. as well as EBD control

Who said it would...?

I learned in a car without ABS. Most of the cars I have driven haven't had ABS. I did an emergency stop from 65mph in my shuv on 155 section tyres without locking up and didn't hit the E36 ahead of me that had to do the same. In fact, I don't think I've ever unintentionally locked the brakes.

*n

Ben M · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:10

penski said:
I have ABS. It's called my right foot.

*n

Left foot brake like a real man!

And I think you mean Clio Cups.

Housey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:14

It may amaze many of you, but some of use grew up with cars before ABS, DSC, EBD, TC, 4WD and Airbags, and we made it through without a scratch, and some of them also had 200bhp and more as well, and leaf springs!

MrMatteh · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:18

and it may amaze you, that cars today can stop quicker thanks to fancy electrics!

Were there no accidents at all before ABS?

Housey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:20

I think you missed my point.........................completely

Ben M · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:22

housemaster said:
I think you missed my point.........................completely

Your point is that cars function without ABS and other trickery, his point is that it's safer with it.

You're both right tbh.

Mickey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:23

housemaster said:
It may amaze many of you, but some of use grew up with cars before ABS, DSC, EBD, TC, 4WD and Airbags, and we made it through without a scratch, and some of them also had 200bhp and more as well, and leaf springs!

No, you made it through without a scratch, plenty of people flew through the windscreen after a relatively slow and easily avoidable crash in a modern car

Housey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:29

My Mini had ABS. You could hit the brakes as hard as you liked and they would NEVER lock............or stop you, but you never skidded!

Clarkey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:31

why is it mental? You don't need ABS. If you think a funky clio with no ABS is mental then my mates Impreza STi 555 must be a real child killer, they ditched the ABS so that they could use the space for the intercooler water spray reservoir instead

Mickey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:35

Clarkey said:
why is it mental? You don't need ABS.

You don't NEED any of the safety features in your car, doesn't mean they're not a good idea.

Clarkey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:40

If you are a real driving enthusiast and you like to be in full control of your car then no, they are not a good idea. If you disagree with me then why not phone up lotus and ask them a couple of questions about it.

andi · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:42

Can.

Open.

Worms.

Everywhere.

Mickey · 11 Feb 2008 at 18:43

Clarkey said:
If you are a real driving enthusiast and you like to be in full control of your car then no, they are not a good idea. If you disagree with me then why not phone up lotus and ask them a couple of questions about it.

Because when I'm doing an emergency stop, the main thing going through my mind is whether i'm in full control of the braking system...Are you in full control when you're sliding down the road with your wheels locked?