The initial production costs for hardware along were over 800 dollars, from sonys figures and from third parties.
Which orifice did you pull £30 from then?
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The initial production costs for hardware along were over 800 dollars, from sonys figures and from third parties.
Which orifice did you pull £30 from then?
So if piracy was to hurt PC/Consoles it would hurt consoles more surely, as is PC hardware not sold at a profit?
You're forgetting that trolls are semi-mythical and as such they age differently to us humans.
i dont doubt that for a second, any piracy is going to hurt a given market it cant not do but to what extent is beyond me, though i would stick my neck on the line and say consoles would suffer greater loss than pc's and thats why microsoft invests so much money in writing new code and tightning security to catch the use of alterd firmware.
that said the los is minimal as id say for every 1 prited game there are proberbly 10 sold
for any platform, and in the case of the pc if there are 3 million users online at any one time on a multiplayer game thats 3 million users who shelled for a game, xbox cant bost them numbers
that said the los is minimal as id say for every 1 prited game there are proberbly 10 sold
for any platform, and in the case of the pc if there are 3 million users online at any one time on a multiplayer game thats 3 million users who shelled for a game, xbox cant bost them numbers
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At the start they lost roughly 250 dollars loss on every console, but now its only about $100 loss.
the xbox only recently started selling at profit.
if a console was released at cost of manufacturing price then sales would be hit hard as id imagine more than most just couldnt afford that sort of money for the unit. im sure that on release the ps3 was around $599 add on the loss that means that the ps3 console to produce cost at launch $850, after rip off britain take there share we would end up paying around £600-£650 rrp. they wouldnt be such a great alternative to a multifunctional pc then would they!
Is that not due to the new 65nm parts which are cheaper to make? Or is it 45nm now?
At this time you could get a pretty tasty PC for that
.yeah it is sorry your post was weirdly worded and i thought you where saying consoles were sold for profit.
Is that not due to the new 65nm parts which are cheaper to make? Or is it 45nm now?
At this time you could get a pretty tasty PC for that
at present it is a 65nm cpu with a 90nm gpu, there is a new revision surfacing that is going to use a 65nm CPU and a 65nm GPU and that should help cut costs, this revision is known as Jasper. Things are that tight at microsoft and there are that many failed consoles that they are now putting into action a plan to reuse salvegable parts from RMA'd consoles such as GPU's and memory along with the chips that encode the video.
This should see xbox start to turn over a better profit and make back some defocit from the piracy (hehe little dig there ibot
) this will be known as Opus.As a pc user i must admit that when i pay £200 for my cutting edge graphics card it is nice to know that nvidia wont let me accidently find the badge of a 7800GT on my recycled hardware
I think the same thing applies as it did with me 10 years ago before I got a pc. The console is straight plug and play with zero technical knowledge required other than being able to turn the thing on, and imo consoles look better and play better.
The hardest thing I found with the pc whenI started is that the smallest thing that went wrong you were completely on your own, or it was a trip to the computer shop to sort it out. I learned the hard way (like most of us I suspect) from scratch and can now do anything, pc wise, on my own.
PC gaming is a niche market, always has been and always will be, unless they radically change the way they operate.
The hardest thing I found with the pc whenI started is that the smallest thing that went wrong you were completely on your own, or it was a trip to the computer shop to sort it out. I learned the hard way (like most of us I suspect) from scratch and can now do anything, pc wise, on my own.
PC gaming is a niche market, always has been and always will be, unless they radically change the way they operate.
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Think your opinion will be challenged as it seems like some games look better on the PC than they did on the console, and look at GOW, that plays fine on the PC on a system you could get for around £300.
But you are not on your own, you have forums on the internet that you can get plenty of help from, a lot of problems I had I found a simple google search fines a solution and a lot of problems I found were just common sense to solve.
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call of duty 4 @ 1680x1050 looks far superior than on an xbox @1080p on 50" it also plays a lot nicer and feels more at your control on a pc never mind that fact you have all the eye candy to play with to cater to your machine, drop aa and your still running same spec as a 360 and looking nicer at 168x1050.
Hell try telling someone there silverstone sg03 looks worse than a xbox360 and then look in confusion as they roll on the floor laughing at you for making silly remarks
Hell try telling someone there silverstone sg03 looks worse than a xbox360 and then look in confusion as they roll on the floor laughing at you for making silly remarks
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Look PC Gaming will never die seeing as I can still play The Secret Of Monkey IslandTM on my PC