Gets me mad aswell, I pick up Our dogs mess. Don't see what makes other people special
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Gets me mad aswell, I pick up Our dogs mess. Don't see what makes other people special
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Devil's advocate time - if your dog injured someone wouldn't it be similar to direct assault from you?
Yup. It isn't also necessarily that there's going to be an increased probability of attack (etc) but just that if it did occur, the results of a powerfully built dog attacking a person would be far more severe than if a different breed attacked. You have to remember that many of these breeds have been bred to fight and defend - they are inherently unsafe.
Thats not entirely true. Fair enough the owner has a big part to play when bringing up the dog, but sometimes some breeds of dogs are just beyond training or control. The day the American pitbull comes back is a very sad day indeed.
If its on the grass, its ok. If its on the path, get a bag.
The problem with dog poo's is people overfeed there animals and give them too much rubbish, then the dogs body has to remove the toxins and it ends up in either a huge crap or a really sloppy one. Feed your dog right on the right food and it shouldn't be bigger then your hand.
Staffies should be banned. Rotts im not sure about, Akitas no and bull mastiffs no.
Thats is a complete over reaction. Not all dogs need to be muzzled and on a lead. You promote aggression in dogs through the frustration of being unable to play. That is why you should always let a dog off the lead when you introduce them.
No No NO!!
Please stop sprouting this bloody rubbish all the time!! If it's in a public place, clean it up! Are you saying you'd allow your dog to take a dump on the playing fields and because it's on grass you wouldn't pick it up? Dirty *******!!!!
Sloppy dog poo can be attributed to a whole host of things not just diet!
We went through this weeks ago, have you STILL not read up the facts?
No you should NOT let a dog off a lead when you introduce them, remember the saying "Control your dog". You have NO control over a dog that is loose. What you should be doing is introducing dogs on neutral territory but ON the lead.
I'll defend labradors till i die. They are NOT aggressive dogs, they have NO genetic aggression and ever since they have been recognised as a breed of dog they have been used for non aggressive purposes.
The cases of a labrador attacking anything is down to multiple factors ranging from not being treated correctly to the dog being attacked or bullied and making it scared.
You find me ANY information about the labradors past that involves any kind of possibility of genetic aggression and i'll eat my face.
Digestive upset is often blamed on a diet being “too rich”. This is a myth which some manufacturers are happy to perpetuate because it implies that their food is of a very high quality. The reality is generally the reverse of this. Low quality foods containing indigestible or unsuitable ingredients are more likely to cause problems than foods which contain easily digested materials.
For example, many pet foods use soya or other vegetable proteins which are difficult to digest, rather than animal proteins which are more easily digested. Wheat is much more difficult to digest than rice, and many dogs seem to be intolerant of wheat. Flaked foods consist of hot-rolled cereals, which are only partly cooked and are therefore more difficult to digest.
Hell no. My dog was attacked 2 weeks ago by a staffy.
I'm guessing you never took your dog or training. The best method and its proven (if i can be arsed to provide the links) is to let both dogs off the lead and sniff. Controlled lead introductions end up in the dog becoming scared as it cant "flee" if he doesn't like the other dog etc. This then turns into frustration and then into a possible snarl/aggressive action.
With the dogs of the lead they can both run away and both have the freedom to sniff and play.
So because of this you're not prepared to further educated?
You guess wrong?
My dog attends regular agility courses held weekly every Saturday (weather permitting). If you can be 'arsed' to provide the links, I'd be most interested.
While the off-lead exercise is well known, what would happen if 2 dogs didn't get on and ended up in a fight. Worse still if one ran away while the other chased. Even worse, what if one dog continued to run onto a road. Or even worse, got so scared it ran towards a group of people.
You have NO control. Simple as that. After a 30 second introduction, it's then safe to let your dogs off the lead if you feel comfortable, but if they've NEVER met before you simply don't plonk them face to face in front of each other.
How can a dog be a natural herder? Don't you mean they were originally bread for herding and then for guarding?
Not many people knows this as well as me.
I have been around Staffys for over 25 years & around Dogs All my life. My Mum run a GSD charity as i grew up & we constantly took in strays etc & re homed them. It was my job to deal with these dogs in Every way, So like i said I've been around Dogs All my life.
My first Staff lived full term & was never aggressive towards a human & he was properly tested by being around 3 young kids & general domestic clutter.
My current Staff Frank I've had since a pup & knew/know his Mum & Dad & met him when he was less than a day old & he is over 6 now. Frank was startled by a young woman who grabbed him round the throat for fuss & went in to snuggle him & he Snapped out at her. Not a teeth in snap just a snap but he caught her ear lobe & pulled it a little causing a tiny bit of blood to come out. It Shocked the bejesus out of me & the other women who was with me chatting & the shop owner of the shop i was standing out side of at the time. Fortunately Frank is well known around my town as a friendly lovable chap so All the people involved even the girl who got bit took it as a mistake She had made in startling Frank. This didn't stop me getting a Muzzle for him, a nice cloth one that's effective in restricting how much he can open his mouth therefore making it Impossible for him to bite anyone else.
Now i would have bet my life & my Grandsons life on the fact that Frank wouldn't of bitten anyone & i would have been wrong. Thankfully my over confidence has only resulted in some Serious shock to me & the girl & no other injury's or trouble has been caused but it should be a lesson to all as i know it is/was a Massive lesson for me.
Now i treat my dog like the Animal he is & take Every precaution to avoid a similar or worse incident. I don't muzzle him on my normal dog walk but if i see a group of unavoidable kids/people/dogs or whatever then i whip it out my pocket & slide it on. Obviously if i go down the town with Frank then he wears the Muzzle constantly. I am thankful that i now know how to own a dog properly & am glad i can still learn lessons at my old age & it hasn't cost me the pain of losing Frank for injury's he may have caused do to my poor ownership. I am Uber careful with Frank now but have not effected his life, He still gets to jump up people we know when we are out walking but with Anybody else i avoid them & am very vocal on the way they approach us & watch him intently. I take No chances with my Frank staffy dog.
As for dog poo i have picked every single Frank poo up since the day I've had him bar None. Fact.
As for other dogs I tried my best to socialise Frank from day one taking him out & introducing him to other dogs, in the park, at training over Nuneaton, over the common everywhere. Then when he was around 18 months old he went over & sniffed a Collie, As he bent his head down the Collie sank his teeth into the back of Franks head, he Still has two small scars to this day from that ******* Collie ******* Dog. Anyway Frank went ape & fought for his life for the 30 seconds or so it took us (both owners) to get over to separate them. Since that day Frank will only get on with Passive dogs & Any Bitch, Any dog that even looks at him wrong & he goes Mental. because of this i avoid the park & Always keep him on a lead, Always. I couldn't have him hurt someone else's pet it's hurts me inside when i hear dogs fight
Anyway That's me & my Frank staffy dog
But Yes he bites My five month old Akita has had off lead labradors run up behind startle him and then snap at him. This has happened twice by one dog and once by another, as I'm sure you can imagine I wasn't too happy. Should I just take the opinion that labs are nasty and aggresive by the actions of two poorly controlled dogs?
Of course not, that would be incredibly small minded of me, and while I'm sorry to hear about your dog getting attacked I think you're displaying the same small mindedness.
Damn right. Once bitten, twice shy.
You do agility with a staffie?
If you had a well trained dog, then those situations wouldn't happen. The dog would recall and he would cower by you as your the pack leader.
Different people different opinions. I always let my dog off lead to meet others, my previous dog trainer recommends it to her students and she's been doing it for a VERY long time. And my current field dog trainer and working dog trainer also recommend the same.
What i feel is the problem, comes down to years and years of passing over generations of advice that is a mixture of family member experiences and friendly advice. Then through that people think its gospel and never deviate from it, thus there not willing to be open to other problems/solutions.
A prime example is the "podgy" puppy. "Aww look a podgy belly puppy, isnt that cute." says Jemma "That's a sign of good health" says dad.
The example of the Akita situation is a genetic problem with labradors, they just want to play!
It doesn't matter if im being narrow minded, I'd rather have a dog, then not have a dog at all.
@Teki.
You are right to a point mate. With most dogs i completly agree but if i did this with my Frank who is a Big Uber fit lad he could kill someones pet within 1 minute, This would tear me apart inside & something i am not prepared to risk. You really do have to see Frank to see just how fit & strong he actually is. Owners of dangerous dogs such as mine have to treat them different to other breeds of dogs.
You are right to a point mate. With most dogs i completly agree but if i did this with my Frank who is a Big Uber fit lad he could kill someones pet within 1 minute, This would tear me apart inside & something i am not prepared to risk. You really do have to see Frank to see just how fit & strong he actually is. Owners of dangerous dogs such as mine have to treat them different to other breeds of dogs.
agreed, all dogs do is take steaming dumps in our public parks for unsuspecting kids to roll around in !!!!
They weren't trying to play, the dogs tails ware't wagging, it was bolt upright on all three ocasions the dogs growled and then snapped.
How is reading up on Staffies going to take your dog away
