Just ordered one of these for "08" plate delivery

nicRob · 15 Feb 2008 at 12:12

Booner! said:
argh! What would you do? get the new astra (06) CDTi for £6000 or wait a bit and get the petrol cars listed above.

Don't get the Astra!

[TW]Fox · 15 Feb 2008 at 14:05

Lord-Jaffa said:
Nope should buy her a 10 year old BMW instead.

Can you point out the last time I recommended someone that a 10 year old BMW is the best option over a new car?

You can't?

Best you toddle off and shove your rolleyes somewhere else, then.

Rotty · 14 Mar 2008 at 10:55

***** just delivered it, I specifically said it was not to be driven here, if that was the only option I would have collected it as dealership only 20-30 mins away, it arrived filthy on the outside

Told them to **** off to local Vauxhall dealer and get it valeted ( well I was reasonably polite but firm really ) , lets see what it looks like in an hour or so

Virdi · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:01

Why not driven?

You didn't want it getting dirty? or you didn't want it abused?

Rotty · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:03

Virdi said:
Why not driven?

You didn't want it getting dirty? or you didn't want it abused?

both

all new cars I have had before have been collect from dealer or bought on truck , I specified when I ordered it was not to be driven here

I have had loads of brand new cars before and never had one driven to me

Rwac · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:15

Let us know how it turns out

jamief · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:26

Rotty said:
both

all new cars I have had before have been collect from dealer or bought on truck , I specified when I ordered it was not to be driven here

I have had loads of brand new cars before and never had one driven to me

I got my CTR driven to me (375 miles) - car was fine when I got it, although I noted on the delivery sheet that it was dirty (this allows you to later report damage hidden by dirt, i.e. stone chips etc),, but after a wash it was still fine.

[TW]Fox · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:28

jamief said:
I got my CTR driven to me (375 miles)

Doesnt that entirely defeat the object of buying a brand new car if it arrives to you with 375 miles on the clock? Once its been used its been used, you might as well have just saved a few grand and bought one with 5k on it!

jamief · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:31

[TW]Fox;11296442 said:
Doesnt that entirely defeat the object of buying a brand new car if it arrives to you with 375 miles on the clock? Once its been used its been used, you might as well have just saved a few grand and bought one with 5k on it!

Not really no. The car is leased, not bought, so any delivery mileage is excluded from my annual contract. Plus, having ~400 miles meant it didn't take long to run in at all (150 further miles).

Overlag · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:39

jamief said:
Not really no. The car is leased, not bought, so any delivery mileage is excluded from my annual contract. Plus, having ~400 miles meant it didn't take long to run in at all (150 further miles).

the point is, that it isnt a "new" car then. Someone else has done 400 miles in it, and you dont know how they drove it.

As fox is saying, one with 5k on it would be a dam sight cheaper, and be as good as new, as your "new" car with 400miles on it.

Kinda like my new car. its 9months old, has 8000 miles on it, Lady Owner, and cost 4k LESS.... that it would Bran New... after 9 MONTHS!?! Sure people said i should have got a 05 plate and saved another 2k but 9 months = 4k loss, an extra 2 years only 2k more loss.

So you paid for a Bran new car on finance/Lease yet its not new?

[TW]Fox · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:40

If his car is leased I guess he isnt that bothered.

jamief · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:43

[TW]Fox;11296554 said:
If his car is leased I guess he isnt that bothered.

I couldn't care less if its done 400 miles by a driver or on the back of a flatbed - its the same car either way, the ONLY difference is that the odo read 375 when I got it as opposed to ~5. And it saved me running it in.

Overlag · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:45

[TW]Fox;11296554 said:
If his car is leased I guess he isnt that bothered.

true. But hes still paying for that lease?

Wicksta · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:46

jamief said:
I couldn't care less if its done 400 miles by a driver or on the back of a flatbed - its the same car either way, the ONLY difference is that the odo read 375 when I got it as opposed to ~5. And it saved me running it in.

But they probably didn't run it in anyway, so you didn't save yourself anything I doubt.

[TW]Fox · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:48

jamief said:
I couldn't care less if its done 400 miles by a driver or on the back of a flatbed - its the same car either way, the ONLY difference is that the odo read 375 when I got it as opposed to ~5. And it saved me running it in.

No, ones a used car ones a new car. You are paying to lease a new car but its a used car that you received

jamief · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:50

Wicksta said:
But they probably didn't run it in anyway, so you didn't save yourself anything I doubt.

Do you know what running in means in this context? I'm guessing not - for the FN2 CTR it basically states "avoid full throttle starts, avoid excessive VTEC use, avoid excessive braking" for the first 550ish miles. Therefore when I got it, it WAS nearly run in.

Overlag said:
true. But hes still paying for that lease?

I'm paying for a 2 years lease for a Civic Type R GT 08 model, which has delivery mileage - I'm perfectly happy with that, the car is new and I have no issues with it - not sure why you seem to?

jamief · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:52

[TW]Fox;11296635 said:
No, ones a used car ones a new car. You are paying to lease a new car but its a used car that you received

So at what EXACT mileage does a new car become used? 1 mile? 20 miles? Dealers have the ability to reset mileage upto ~40 miles on almost all new cars, once, as part of the preparation process. So, in effect, every single "new" car in the land has covered some miles (whether its 1,2,20 or 39). By your logic there is no such thing as a new car.

chipperhead · 14 Mar 2008 at 13:13

jamief said:
Do you know what running in means in this context? I'm guessing not - for the FN2 CTR it basically states "avoid full throttle starts, avoid excessive VTEC use, avoid excessive braking" for the first 550ish miles. Therefore when I got it, it WAS nearly run in.

I think he means there's a good possibilty it has had excessive VTEC use and excessive braking by the delivery drivers, so wasn't properly run in anyway.
Maybe not, I'm sure it depends on how thoughtful and careful the previous drivers were and in this day and age, well I always think the worst anyway.

Simon · 14 Mar 2008 at 13:16

Who cares. It's only a leased car lol.

Honestly you guys do get bothered about insignificant things

[TW]Fox · 14 Mar 2008 at 13:16

jamief said:
So at what EXACT mileage does a new car become used? 1 mile? 20 miles? Dealers have the ability to reset mileage upto ~40 miles on almost all new cars, once, as part of the preparation process. So, in effect, every single "new" car in the land has covered some miles (whether its 1,2,20 or 39). By your logic there is no such thing as a new car.

If its been driven anywhere other than around the dealers site, along the dock or perhaps from the prep centre a few miles down the road to the dealer, it is not a new car IMHO.

How you can argue a car thats been driven for 375 miles along Motorways etc is anything other than used is beyond me.

I've only ever 'had' (6 weeks) one new car - it had 6 miles on it.