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True next-gen Nvidia GT200 ready to launch anyday...

magpie1966 said:
I wish these posts didn't always turn into fan wars, and be more about hardware.

As for upgrading, there is a simple rule of thumb, buy bang for buck, Don't buy for bragging rights, as Half the time, the games aren't out to utilise the hardware, and the drivers take months to get them running right. and by then the price has dropped.
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says the man with an ultra. You buy what u can aford, simple.
 
elmuzzy66. said:
You buy what u can aford, simple.
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....... or what you are willing to spend.

IMO it's not a big surprise that the 9xxx cards will not be a lot faster than current cards as that isn't needed due to hardly any competition.

No competition = higher prices = slower development
 
I'm not surprised at all by this. When you remember that nVidia are a company out there purely to make money; the 9 series cards make a hell of a lot more sense. Why push new technology out the door when you can ride the success of your last tech and make a little extra money? It's just good business. nVidia will continue to milk their current technology until ATI threaten their market dominance and then they'll bring out the big guns.

Either way, it's nice to see both ATI and nVidia working on new stuffs.
 
I do hope both ati's and nvidia's next gen cards are about equal so it keeps them at each others throats and then it will be better for us.
 
My system is really* CPU limited now so I'm gonna wait for Nehalems to come out and drop in price, then do upgrade cpu/mobo/ram/gpu. So I'm good a year I think anyway.

*1 a: in reality : actually <things as they really are>
 
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Are we forgetting the 3870x2 is the fastest single card? Not competition? It is a card which requires 1 slot and runs very fast. If Nvidia could so easily do a 1 card sli reply that beats it then why is the 9800x2 that tiny bit slower? I think nvidia may as well launch new technology, these latest releases will match the price if not be higher then the 3870x2 yet will probably be as good/slower. Surely to sell more expensive high end cards you need to make them more powerful. Afterall the guys spending so much on expensive cards will be knowledgeable?
 
lozzick said:
Are we forgetting the 3870x2 is the fastest single card? Not competition? It is a card which requires 1 slot and runs very fast. If Nvidia could so easily do a 1 card sli reply that beats it then why is the 9800x2 that tiny bit slower? I think nvidia may as well launch new technology, these latest releases will match the price if not be higher then the 3870x2 yet will probably be as good/slower. Surely to sell more expensive high end cards you need to make them more powerful. Afterall the guys spending so much on expensive cards will be knowledgeable?
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You know that is a good point, I was of the opinion, people willing to spend a pretty hefty some on a GPU will atleast have a look at the reviews. Yet, the market of people simply saying 'OMG 9 > 8' is obviously enough to subsidise nvidia for a good while yet.

The only thing that can salvage nvidia's 9 series, is some impressive SLI figures, (Tri SLI 9800GTX managing over 50 fps crysis at 1920x1200 would be sufficient to quieten down a few people). However, for us mere mortals on single card solutions, I think R700 is where it is at.

Martyn
 
Richdog said:
Highly highly doubtful, there is nothing to say that at all in any article or news we've read, and nothing to suggest that current cooling methods are incapable of coping with next-gen solutions. Besides which, the power requirements probably aren't that much more than current watt-guzzling cards, if they are at all..
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Well something has to give. It's a known fact that faster cards are hotter and more power hungry, despite multiple process shrinks. Otherwise we'd all be using those little 9800 Pro fans on our 8800s!

It can't be long until we move to triple-slot cooling IMO.
 
To be honest to me it sounds like bullsh*t on Nvidia's part about the new tech being ready for release 'any day'.

Business sense dictates that having a monopoly on a market is good for you (if you are the monopolist). Look at Gillette, they arent thinking about letting in rivals, they want to crush the market and flood it with their products.

Maybe Nvidia have a new GPU in the pipeline but I doubt its 100% ready.

Edit: You stand to make a greater profit from your new tech as its more refined and is produced via greater efficiency than selling your old stuff for 'a little extra money'.
 
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I really hope that new ati card has more texture units. It seems amd are going to offer better value cards than Nvidia even though Nvidia might end up being faster.
eg 9800gx2 and 3870x2. The 3870x2 may be slower in benchmarks but its significantly cheaper.
 
Exactly, theres more to it, you do not go to ground and wait for your rivals to catch up all the time, you want to kill them off, so why is it, that everytime AMD are behind, Nvidia decide to go to ground, they scrap driver support, and they just release the same old cards until they catch up, you don't do that to your rivals, they've had 2 years to kill em off, so why wont they do it, because of Intel imo, as they are the bigger threat to Nvidia, and they know it, they scared to death of em, while AMD's here it keeps Intel away from them.
 
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Alan wake will be my mile stone for the year, that game will decide my next upgrade as thats what im looking at as a marker for what i expect from games over the next 12 to 18 months.
From what i have been reading it means ill be getting a Quad core and not a new grapics card, the past month or so has really made me very happy about the fact i purchased my 8800GT on day of release if not that then a 3870 would have been nice. It seems like the companys at the top arnt really giving us much more reason to part with our money to do anything else but willy wave. My tip for 2008 is QUADS for the win graphics for the bin lol!
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Exactly, theres more to it, you do not go to ground and wait for your rivals to catch up all the time, you want to kill them off, so why is it, that everytime AMD are behind, Nvidia decide to go to ground, they scrap driver support, and they just release the same old cards until they catch up, you don't do that to your rivals, they've had 2 years to kill em off, so why wont they do it, because of Intel imo, as they are the bigger threat to Nvidia, and they know it, they scared to death of em, while AMD's here it keeps Intel away from them.
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:p well true or not it is an interesting theory
 
it still means that anyone who upgrades from a current 8800-series card to a 9800 series card essentially has "MUG" stamped accross their forehead.
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By that philosophy, anyone who buys the ATI, uhhh I mean AMD 3870 X2 also has the word "MUG" stamped across their forehead...

But its "lets have a go at nvidia" month so best not say that really :)

I mean the 3870 X2 was only released less than 2 months ago and nobody seems to mind....

Just because you've got a good hand doesn't mean you have to play it ;)

Would you have a dig at someone who bluffed a crap hand at holdem and rinced you?
 
To be honest I'm looking forward to ATI's new offering, they didn't do well with the 2900 series compared with the 8800's so we know they should be looking to bring out the big guns.
 
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