Please tell the wife that she is wrong.

Andrew1978 · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:40

mp3kla said:
One second was in the first day, the other second was in the next day.

yes

mp3kla said:
23:59:59 --> 00:00:00 is one second

1 second on saturday

mp3kla said:
at 00:00:00 the next second is about to begin / already begun

on sunday

mp3kla said:
. It's so small you'd struggle to measure it.

no its not 1 second is 1 second, they dont magically get smaller the closer you get to midnight.

Kristoph · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:42

dmpoole said:
So if I said to you I want to meet you next friday at midnight when would you turn up?

0000 Friday. Not 0000 Saturday.

Unless of course you wanted to meet at 23.59 Friday? But that wouldn't be midnight now would it. Midnight would be at 00:00, but at that point it would then be Saturday.

Scuzi · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:42

AcidHell2 said:
Which is totally wrong, any normal person would turn up friday 23:59

Hitler thought gassing millions of Jews was right. I'm off out with a bottle of bleach and a bottle of ammonia - someone else did it, it must be right!

Kristoph · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:44

Andrew1978 said:
no its not 1 second is 1 second, they dont magically get smaller the closer you get to midnight.

There are units smaller than one second.

0000 is the start of the next day, the fact that time changed from 2359 to 0000 shows that the previous day has ended, and the next has just started.

L0rdMike · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:45

A clock tells you how many mins have passed If it said 3:16 you would be on the 4th hour on the 17th min on that day.

Glaucus · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:45

Scuzi said:
Hitler thought gassing millions of Jews was right. I'm off out with a bottle of bleach and a bottle of ammonia - someone else did it, it must be right!

and whats that got to do with it?

far far more people say if you want to meet at midnight on friday it's 23:59 on Friday.

Therefore that's the common usage and ultimately what is important.

We've already clarified 24:00 is the end of the day and that 00:00 is the start

RetiredGreyFox · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:46

mp3kla said:
0000 Friday. Not 0000 Saturday.

Unless of course you wanted to meet at 23.59 Friday? But that wouldn't be midnight now would it. Midnight would be at 00:00, but at that point it would then be Saturday.

So let me get this right.
You are telling me that if I asked to meet you on friday at midnight you would turn up on thursday at 23:59 and it would then become friday midnight 1 minute later?

AcidHell2 said:
far far more people say if you want to meet at midnight on friday it's 23:59 on Friday.

I don't know anybody who would think otherwise.

Kristoph · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:46

L0rdMike said:
A clock tells you how many mins have passed If it said 3:16 you would be on the 4th hour on the 17th min on that day.

Correct. Which is what people aren't understanding in this thread.

Scuzi · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:48

AcidHell2 said:
and whats that got to do with it?

The price of fish, obviously.

AcidHell2 said:
We've already clarified 24:00 is the end of the day and that 00:00 is the start

Yes, and all 24 hour clocks show midnight as 0000.

Besides. 2400 and 0000 are the exact same time.

Kristoph · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:48

dmpoole said:
So let me get this right.
You are telling me that if I asked to meet you on friday at midnight you would turn up on thursday at 23:59 and it would then become friday midnight 1 minute later?

Correct. But, as a lot of people (which this thread has proven) have a misunderstanding of time, I'd probably presume you were one of those and turn up at the incorrect time for your benefit.

I wouldn't wanna miss a chance to see you now would I.

Andrew1978 · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:48

mp3kla said:
There are units smaller than one second.

0000 is the start of the next day, the fact that time changed from 2359 to 0000 shows that the previous day has ended, and the next has just started.

Yes but the day doesn't change until it gets to 00:00:00

you can have all the time you want but the fact is that the first second of any day is 00:00:01

00:00:00 is the beginning...they havent started counting yet anything before that belonged to the day just gone.

tell me im not the only one thinking this....lol

L0rdMike · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:49

Andrew1978 said:
Yes but the day doesn't change until it gets to 00:00:00

you can have all the time you want but the fact is that the first second of any day is 00:00:01

00:00:00 is the beginning...they havent started counting yet anything before that belonged to the day just gone.

tell me im not the only one thinking this....lol

THE FIRST SECOND OF THE DAY ISNT 01!!!! IT WILL BE THE 2ND SECOND!!! :mad:

Glaucus · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:49

Scuzi said:
The price of fish, obviously.

Yes, and all 24 hour clocks show midnight as 0000.

Besides. 2400 and 0000 are the exact same time.

yes but technically there not. Which is why it's totally pointless.

The only thing which is important is common use and not the exact second.

Andrew1978 · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:50

so 1 day is 24 hours and 1 second long?

L0rdMike · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:51

Andrew1978 said:
so 1 day is 24 hours and 1 second long?

When the second hand its 12 that is the end of a min and the start of the first second.

A day is actually only 23 hours and 50 odd mins but lets not go there.

Glaucus · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:52

Andrew1978 said:
so 1 day is 24 hours and 1 second long?

No midnight is exactly 00:00 or 24:00.

With absolutely no nano seconds or any other measurment.
It's like 0.9999 recurring = 1.

Midnight never truly exists.

RetiredGreyFox · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:52

mp3kla said:
Correct. But, as a lot of people (which this thread has proven) have a misunderstanding of time, I'd probably presume you were one of those and turn up at the incorrect time for your benefit.

I wouldn't wanna miss a chance to see you now would I.

Ever since I was a small child I was always told that my day starts with a morning, goes into noon and then ends at midnight.
Midnight is the end of the day and not the start of the day.
Obviously for you midnight must be the start of the day.
Thats weird.

Scuzi · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:53

AcidHell2 said:
yes but technically there not. Which is why it's totally pointless.

No, technically they are the exact same time. How can they be different? They are two different notations used to describe one exact point in time.

AcidHell2 said:
The only thing which is important is common use and not the exact second.

Personally, I prefer to place factual accuracy above "common usage" on my scale of priorities. Besides, who's to say that the majority of people believe in the wrong method anyway? Has a nation wide survey been completed?

Glaucus · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:54

Scuzi said:
No, technically they are the exact same time. How can they be different? They are two different notations used to describe one exact point in time.

Because it's a human concept, there the exact time. Yet one is the end of the day and one is the beginning of the day. Hence the difference.

Andrew1978 · 19 Apr 2008 at 18:54

AcidHell2 said:
No midnight is exactly 00:00 or 24:00.

With absolutely no nano seconds or any other measurment.
It's like 0.9999 recurring = 1.

Midnight never truly exists.

I know but explain to me why they are arguing that 00:00:01 is 2 seconds into the next day?