720p on a 1080p lcd (PS3)

topher · 22 Apr 2008 at 18:37

Guys, I am looking to buy new lcdtv Sony KDL40v3000 which is 40" 1080p

I will be sitting between 8/9 feet away from the tv, how do 720p games look running on a 1080p lcd?

Topher

craptakular · 22 Apr 2008 at 18:44

err the same!

Kreeeee · 22 Apr 2008 at 18:48

Even on 720p sets (1366*768) they are scaled so yes, they will look the same.

craptakular · 22 Apr 2008 at 18:51

Especially at that viewing distance, 9 ft you cant tell the difference!

Nymins · 22 Apr 2008 at 18:58

It will look fine at that distance. I use it on the Samsung 40" M86 and they look fine.

topher · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:38

Nymins said:
It will look fine at that distance. I use it on the Samsung 40" M86 and they look fine.

cheers mate thanks,

to the guy(s) that said the same, there will be some difference as the 720p signal is upscaled to 1080p!

720p is 1280x720 so that's upscaled to 1080p which is 1920x1080...

james.miller · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:40

they will look perfectly fine

there will be differences to running on a 720p set, but its nothing you need to worry about as i doubt youd see them with out running the tv's side by side and looking for them

i have no gripes with my ps3 on a 40w2000, so you should be absolutely fine on a 40v3000

Kreeeee · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:42

james.miller said:
they will look perfectly fine there will be differences to running on a 720p set, but its nothing you need to worry about as i doubt youd see them with out running the tv's side by side and looking for them i have no gripes with my ps3 on a 40w2000, so you should be absolutely fine on a 40v3000

Not saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely curious, but how does scaling 720p to 1366*768 look better than scaling it to 1920*1080? Surely the higher pixel density allows smoother scaling?

Kreeeee · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:43

topher said:
cheers mate thanks,

to the guy(s) that said the same, there will be some difference as the 720p signal is upscaled to 1080p!

720p is 1280x720 so that's upscaled to 1080p which is 1920x1080...

Re-read my post, pretty much all 720p sets are 1366*768 so there is up-scaling anyway.

james.miller · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:46

Kreeeee said:
Not saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely curious, but how does scaling 720p to 1366*768 look better than scaling it to 1920*1080? Surely the higher pixel density allows smoother scaling?

i never said it was better or worse, just different. in theory there is room for improvements with scaling to a higher resolution. the best example i can think of is dvd using ffdshow to scale on the pc. the improvement on a 1920x1200 were far greater than a 1680x1050 display using the same settings on my 22 and 24" monitors, but we all know ffshow is pretty much at the front of the scaling game and by far it is a lot better than the scaler in my 40w2000.

as far as the the tv's scaler goes.....it depends on the tv really. every 40" 1080p set ive seen has been better than a smaller 720p set with SD tv. i mean, the difference was immediately apparent. SD has been NASTY on every 720p set ive seen. scaling from 720p though? i dont think there'll be much of a difference. not enough to worry about at any rate. the overall performance of the displays (color accuracy, black levels and detail on the blacks) would make a far bigger difference

topher · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:47

I agree, I am just saying with a 1080p lcd, the tv will have to upscale more.

Kreeeee · 22 Apr 2008 at 19:49

james.miller said:
i never said it was better or worse, just different.

Good point, I misread it.

Thanks for the post

topher said:
I agree, I am just saying with a 1080p lcd, the tv will have to upscale more.

Should never make it worse just because there are more pixels. Quite the opposite in my experience.

jwhalley · 22 Apr 2008 at 22:01

I bought the v3000 a couple months a go for my PS3. It's a great combination.

-Ad- · 22 Apr 2008 at 22:03

At that distance 1080p won't be noticable over 720p, so don't worry about it.

720p will be scaled to fit.

JaFFa · 22 Apr 2008 at 23:18

Kreeeee said:
Should never make it worse just because there are more pixels. Quite the opposite in my experience.

I'd disagree, it would make it worse. Not running an LCD at its native res will always look worse in my experience.

james.miller · 22 Apr 2008 at 23:25

JaFFa said:
I'd disagree, it would make it worse. Not running an LCD at its native res will always look worse in my experience.

worse than what?

rp2000 · 22 Apr 2008 at 23:28

james.miller said:
worse than what?

Than running at its native resolution, presumably.

(by the way I e-mailed you an off topic question).

rp2000

Kreeeee · 22 Apr 2008 at 23:35

rp2000 said:
Than running at its native resolution, presumably.

(by the way I e-mailed you an off topic question).

rp2000

If you read my posts we're not talking about native resolutions, we're talking about 1280*720 being upscaled to 1366*768 or 1920*1080 which is what jimbo mills was hinting at with his question

james.miller · 22 Apr 2008 at 23:36

rp2000 said:
Than running at its native resolution, presumably.

(by the way I e-mailed you an off topic question).

rp2000

yeah sorry i just read it

sent you one back lol

JaFFa · 23 Apr 2008 at 09:31

Kreeeee said:
If you read my posts we're not talking about native resolutions, we're talking about 1280*720 being upscaled to 1366*768 or 1920*1080 which is what jimbo mills was hinting at with his question

sure, but surely the closer to the native res the better ?

Dont get me wrong I dont think it will look bad, I just dont think it will look better.