I think Vista haters are full of poo

When Vista first came out I hated it, until now. Just installed 64bit on my laptop with 4GB of ram and this thing is great. Way faster than my desktop with 2GB ram, I think its time to get some more ram and change over to vista on my desktop. Only gripe with vista 64bit is that iTunes sucks, it crashes a lot.

But I do have to say OS X is way ahead of vista for my self anyway, I find it a lot easier to use plus it has a lot of handy features like spaces and expose.

Pretty happy with vista now, hopefully it will stay like this for while with no hickups. Wont use it much though as I'm dual booting on my macbook so OS X is my primary OS.
 
1337z0r said:
When Vista first came out I hated it, until now. Just installed 64bit on my laptop with 4GB of ram and this thing is great. Way faster than my desktop with 2GB ram, I think its time to get some more ram and change over to vista on my desktop. Only gripe with vista 64bit is that iTunes sucks, it crashes a lot.
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You know there is a itunes specificly for vista 64 available now dont you??
 
I am on vista x64bit since it came out, I must admit at first few months, nvidia drivers on SLI settings was crap, after version 169.xx.... I m very happy with vista. No problems at all.

give vista another 6-12 months, and it will be so solid. ;)

sdfuk said:
Vista seems fast and looks better imo but does have issues with somes games and therefore I dual boot now
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do you meant, less fps than XP, yes thats true, but in case you can't play spesific game on Vista, Nop I don't agree.
 
I run Vista 32bit on my games machine and I like it, no stability problems, though it doesn't like the endless modded nvidia inf files :D
Overall it a nice OS, looks good and runs well, and I have yet to find anything I can't run on it..
Is it the future - Im not so sure, most corporates have no plans to roll out yet and with MS bringing the next windows release forward (rumoured) Im not so sure that people will adopt it in the same way as XP.
The problem I see with Vista is that it doesn't have a killer feature that makes you think "I have to have that". there aren't many things that you can't run in XP so there is no urgent need to upgrade to Vista.
So I guess that is a +1 vote from me...
 
My personal feeling is I prefered XP, vista just feels heavy and bloated in comparison (in much the same way as XP did compared to 2000 actually).

I had a nightmare trying to install vista on my laptop (battery life decreased by a third and it was really slow - on a laptop 6 months old) and that might have colored my judgement but I just can't see a good reason to use it over XP.

I hope the next desktop windows release is better (I have some hope, server 2008 is much better than I was expecting) but right now I think i'll give vista a miss.

EDIT: I should add, my personal laptop is a mac, I spent 95% of my time using OSX and I can't see that changing anytime soon, it's just so hassle free...
 
bigredshark said:
EDIT: I should add, my personal laptop is a mac, I spent 95% of my time using OSX and I can't see that changing anytime soon, it's just so hassle free...
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Yeah I can agree with you on that, I use OSX on my MacBook because it makes a much better portable OS, even compared to XP the battery life in OSX is much better plus a cold boot takes less than 20 seconds to usable state. I don't use my MacBook in the same way as my Desktop, my desktop is mainly for working/development/gaming which Vista is great for.
 
edgedemon said:
The problem I see with Vista is that it doesn't have a killer feature that makes you think "I have to have that". there aren't many things that you can't run in XP so there is no urgent need to upgrade to Vista.
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Maybe not a killer feature than translates well into a glossy Ad Campaign, which is probabaly the difference. As i mention above, the Search bar and Superfetch combined with sleep are killer features enough for me.

I think the main problem is no matter which way you cut it, you need better hardware to run Vista. Fortunately it's lovely on my desktop, but then it should be. It's not so lovely on my laptop with 1GB of ram and weak onboard graphics.

Though echoing what's just been said, OSX is still my portable OS choice for sure.
 
to say that people **** windows vista off , when its only down to the software publishers not updating there software fast, then go on **** somebody else off ie microsoft when they cannot reason whatsoever on how to fully operate there PCs and possible immature as such , they may not have the intellect yet to fully understand that PC's are for the individual user, they put the software on there PCs then it does not work buying autoupdate Games that require a spec that far outstrips there pc specs for instance, the same applies to the individuals PC ie not enough memory cpu not up to the job, hard drive to old, not enough capacity left when they go ahead to install the Program, that will not function 100% , always down to the user who sometimes misses out important info when asking the obvious question that could have being googled or searched for in the forums, is just beyond me, so yes them People who do rant about this and that do so down to the above incompetence!
 
i dont mind vista, i just wish the gaming experience was as good as XP.... ie i didnt lose FPS in all games when played under Vista. Apart from that its ok. Oh also i still cant install Vista SP1...


/edit i am using vista 64 and have done for 8 months.
 
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I have never personally understood why people will avoid the use of vista over something as trivial and insignificant as a lower framerate in games.

How much lower is the FPS and in what games?

I know that this happens as I ahve done enough tests to see for myself the differences between Vista32, Vista64 and XP32 and XP64 and the differences are only noticeable because the benchmarks tell me.

Unles I analyse each and every frame its absolutely impossible to see any difference at all... Even then, if I do say that I can see any difference, then obviously Im clearly full of ****.

Vista SP1 is out and its so ridiculously big for a good reason, the ammount if fixes is incredible, but at least if nothign else, these fixes are good ones.
 
mrk said:
why not ? it improves performance...
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i cannot install SP1, does not show up in windows update, and if i do it manually i just get continuous BSOD. then i have to use windows repair & system restore point

@fat rakoon

I am using vista 64bit atm. But i wish it had the same performance (FPS wise) as XP 64bit. A superior OS should have equal or better performance than the predecessor. But it doesnt in terms of FPS and patching...


Vista SP1 is not available for me to install via windows update, and 2 "important" updates released 11th of March and 8th of April for Office 2007 always fail to install. I've tried to install everyday since release and followed all knowledge base ways to fix it and no joy. Currently in contact with support to get it installed but i think they have ran out of ideas..
 
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uvmain said:
Ultramon, or possibly a feeware alternative will enable Horizontal Span in Vista.
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I can drag a normal explorer window across both monitors.

However when it comes to spanning FS9 across both, it just doesn't work at all.

Nvidia had to write out horizontal and vertical span from their Vista drivers and just leave clone and dualview in. Reason being? MS decided in their wisdom to not support true spanning when they were writing WDM.

Believe me, I've tried everything.
 
Horizontal span was no longer needed in WDDM because the way the desktop is drawn with the desktop compositor means that you can quite literally resize a video (or whatever) to take up all your screens.

This was one of the first things I tried out in Vista as I had been looking forward to a proper elegant multi-monitor setup (not a cobbled together fundamentally flawed setup like what I had in XP) and it works perfectly.

It just needs now for media players to catch up. They need to add buttons/menu items to let you maximise the media player across all screens not just the one. Also there is nothing stopping games from doing this although they will need to fully embrace the new WDDM way of working. Not even Crysis goes that far yet.
 
Vista works great for most folks, unfortunately it doesn't work with 80% of my specialised hardware and I break it too easily. This is not Microsofts fault since they don't write the drivers. However after having it on my machine for a few months I can say I hated it for numerous reasons none of which I will bother to go into since it annoys so many people. :rolleyes:
 
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