Lacking content in GTA IV [Spoilers]

rp2000 · 18 May 2008 at 10:54

KNiVES said:
The Xbox 360 DLC is obviously going to be all the features that are in the last two GTA games but missing in 4.

It's not that simple. I am sure a lot of the stuff that is missing could not be done for technical reasons.

I am fairly sure planes and fast bikes/cars could not be done due to them requiring the city to stream data faster than the engine could allow (the sme reasons they were omitted form Saints Row). Whilst it is conceivable these may be overcome by the next release (GTA4:xx) such major changes won't be in the DLC. I would place money on it.

rp2000

Surfer · 18 May 2008 at 11:00

Neoni said:
Mixture of both then, ill settle for that

No i dont need to re-read his post... :rolleyes:

And why are you saying HIS post when it was your post. Is someone not paying attention?

and uhh no it wasnt a mixture of both... I'm pretty surprised you guys didnt see the whole revenge aspect. You actually following the story???

Its pretty clear in the story..and im only 30% in and i know that....cant believe some miss this.

RuMp3l4$k1n · 18 May 2008 at 11:02

I think its also that planes have little point on a map which is so small, you would fly from one side to the other in about 30 seconds and then what? Until the landscape of the game world expanded I wouldn't have planes in there at all, they were never as fun as the heli's anyway.

rp2000 · 18 May 2008 at 11:22

RuMp3l4$k1n said:
I think its also that planes have little point on a map which is so small, you would fly from one side to the other in about 30 seconds and then what? Until the landscape of the game world expanded I wouldn't have planes in there at all, they were never as fun as the heli's anyway.

In San Andreas planes were huge amounts of fun. So far I have flown the two types of Heli in GTA4 (using SP mode) one has guns, one doesn't. Both are not fun.

As you say that may be due to the huge map in SA.

rp2000

slambo69 · 18 May 2008 at 11:27

A wee sea plane like the one with the advertising banners in vice city wouldnt go a miss.

Shamikebab · 18 May 2008 at 11:43

rp2000 said:
It's not that simple. I am sure a lot of the stuff that is missing could not be done for technical reasons.

I am fairly sure planes and fast bikes/cars could not be done due to them requiring the city to stream data faster than the engine could allow (the sme reasons they were omitted form Saints Row). Whilst it is conceivable these may be overcome by the next release (GTA4:xx) such major changes won't be in the DLC. I would place money on it.

rp2000

Im not buying that. Planes didn't really work in the other ones either (including the pc version) You were constantly crashing into scenery that hadn't loaded yet. I honestly think that the size of the city and them aiming for a more small time story were the reasons. And there are fast cars and bikes :confused:

RuMp3l4$k1n · 18 May 2008 at 11:47

We also had a couple of airports to fly between in SA if we wanted to use planes as proper transport and the parachute for some free falling fun, but for me viewing the (huge) map from above was what made planes/choppers fun, loop the loop stunt stuff wears off after a while. Flight school was also pretty cool and if they added planes in some DLC I would like to see that return along side the actual vehicles themselves. I like the Maverick in GTA4 but not as much as I used to like flying choppers in the other games, the handling just isn't as satisfying and the map is far far more dull.

rp2000 · 18 May 2008 at 11:55

Shamikebab said:
Im not buying that. Planes didn't really work in the other ones either (including the pc version) You were constantly crashing into scenery that hadn't loaded yet. I honestly think that the size of the city and them aiming for a more small time story were the reasons. And there are fast cars and bikes

See to me the cars just feel slower, and the bikes, maybe because they handle differently?

Ain't played GTA on the PC but in SA on ps2 and xbox 1 I thought planes worked well tbh.

The reasoning I proposed was just based on what SR devs said regarding limitations in their game (similar sand box environment game), with regards to them physically not being able to stream the city so fast, Rockstar may use different reasons but end result is same, stuff from last gen version of *** game left out of this gen version.

Inevitably it boils down to the fact I thought they could make a next gen looking game with all the features of last gen plus new ones. In fact they made a next gen looking game, added new features and hoped we would not miss the features they left out (for whatever reason). If what they added equaled the fun of what they removed then I would not mind.

rp2000

Neoni · 18 May 2008 at 18:23

Surfer said:
No i dont need to re-read his post... And why are you saying HIS post when it was your post. Is someone not paying attention?

and uhh no it wasnt a mixture of both... I'm pretty surprised you guys didnt see the whole revenge aspect. You actually following the story???

Its pretty clear in the story..and im only 30% in and i know that....cant believe some miss this.

its clear in the first opening scene he came over because of romans lies. not arguing about it, its what happens in the game.

Kreeeee · 18 May 2008 at 18:29

Neoni said:
its clear in the first opening scene he came over because of romans lies. not arguing about it, its what happens in the game.

Erm... he came across for 2 reasons.

Neoni · 18 May 2008 at 18:32

Kreeeee said:
Erm... he came across for 2 reasons.

i know he did, but wasn't the original idea to get away from all the ****.

slambo69 · 18 May 2008 at 20:19

Neoni said:
i know he did, but wasn't the original idea to get away from all the ****.

No thats what he said, then he admits to roman that he came to find someone, all his allies try and persuade him to put his past behind him. Niko doesnt give a **** about big american titties or owning a penthouse he came to liberty city for revenge.

Revenge has taken over his life, it got his cousin shot and it is all he is living for, he cant see any other point in life but even once he gets his revenge he feels empty and pointless, he is unable to move on.

That said he has made some pretty powerful allies along the way which sets the scene nicely for him to takeover liberty city if someone can persuade him to, or perhaps he will just fly away to vice city believing he can start a new life but ends up walking into a trap.