Banned from driving

2Thumbs · 29 May 2008 at 20:12

Skeeter said:
And also, isnt a mistake something you do accidentally? You dont 'accidentally' drive your car when you know you are not legally allowed to do so. You do it on purpose.

Which is why I said "isn't making a mistake".

daven1986 · 29 May 2008 at 20:13

scottyboy said:
i just got the car and i would be insured which is what im gonna say.

so you are a lying, drink driving, uninsured POS

Skeeter · 29 May 2008 at 20:13

mike5678 said:
Ok concerning that, you do not have to have the keys with you to be in possession of them.

If they are somewhere that you have access to (my example being your holiday home in Devon), then you are in constructive possession of those keys.

Therefore you are in charge of that motor vehicle, whilst being drunk. Voilla, offence commited!

Would you like me to explain constructive possession?
P.S. don't get too caught up in any of this, like I said, it would never get to court or be punished. But it doesn't mean that the offence is not taking place.

Seriously, your making stuff up now. The RTA doesnt even mention the word 'possession' in its explaination of 'in charge of', let alone 'constructive possession'. Ill find a bobby tonight and ask them

KNiVES · 29 May 2008 at 20:13

Idiots like you are why I (young drivers in general) have to pay through the roof for car insurance. I don't even know where to begin, but I have a hunch a fair few here has already said what needs to be said.

Get a grip, sort your life out. It's obviously a complete shambles if you're drinking and driving without insurance.

mike5678 · 29 May 2008 at 20:15

AcidHell2 said:
Not if you are no where near the vehicle.

Why do you need to be near the vehicle to be in charge of it?

If you go on holiday and leave your car at home, are you saying that you are no longer in charge of your vehicle? If you own it, you are in charge of it.

scottyboy · 29 May 2008 at 20:15

daven1986 said:
i hope you die very soon - less scum like you = nicer place to live

why?? so im scum for this when everyone drink drives all the time and i wasnt even driving. ive never done this before..

Glaucus · 29 May 2008 at 20:15

scottyboy said:
i just got the car and i would be insured which is what im gonna say.

They don't care what you say, you do not have paper work to show you are insured. End of. It was on a public road you need Third party insurance. Regardless if you where driving or not.

Skeeter · 29 May 2008 at 20:15

2Thumbs said:
Which is why I said "isn't making a mistake".

I was agreeing with you, and building your argument. Sorry if it came accross the other way.

It was ment as (yet another) dig at the OP.

mike5678 · 29 May 2008 at 20:16

Skeeter said:
Seriously, your making stuff up now. The RTA doesnt even mention the word 'possession' in its explaination of 'in charge of', let alone 'constructive possession'. Ill find a bobby tonight and ask them

Sounds good to me. Let me know how you get on.

scottyboy · 29 May 2008 at 20:17

KNiVES said:
Idiots like you are why I (young drivers in general) have to pay through the roof for car insurance. I don't even know where to begin, but I have a hunch a fair few here has already said what needs to be said.

Get a grip, sort your life out. It's obviously a complete shambles if you're drinking and driving without insurance.

i have to pay through the roof anyway for insurance and im young..

Yozz76 · 29 May 2008 at 20:18

Do you think that this fella might be winding us all up? Can't believe that someone would post something like this without having any remorse. He is probably buzzing from response it has stirred.

Emlyn_Dewar · 29 May 2008 at 20:18

scottyboy said:
why?? so im scum for this when everyone drink drives all the time and i wasnt even driving. ive never done this before..

If everyone cut their wrists would you do it?
And define "everyone" I'd wager that the majority of motorists don't drink drive.

Also, you're a lying piece of ****, read your last ridiculous topic, specifically the uninsured, hungover 1am post and eat your words.

You are scum, you don't have a defense.

scottyboy said:
i have to pay through the roof anyway for insurance and im young..

Hopefully you'll be paying much more now, in an ideal world you'll be priced off the road.

Skeeter · 29 May 2008 at 20:18

mike5678 said:
Why do you need to be near the vehicle to be in charge of it?

If you go on holiday and leave your car at home, are you saying that you are no longer in charge of your vehicle? If you own it, you are in charge of it.

Mike, look. We get your point, and we all understand what your trying to say, but your comments are not working in your favor. Owning something does not make you in charge of it. If I own my car and my sister drives it she is in charge of it, not me. I can be as drunk as I like, hell, i can be slumped in the rear seat off my face for all I care, there is no offence.

Yes, using or planning to use a car while drunk is an offence, but common sence over rules the wording when you seperate the intent or even the posibility of being able to drive.

Sime · 29 May 2008 at 20:19

Yozz76 said:
Do you think that this fella might be winding us all up? Can't believe that someone would post something like this without having any remorse. He is probably buzzing from response it has stirred.

I agree like...Hes probably sat with afew mates pleased that hes winding everyone up...

If this IS geniune then im truely disgusted...

scottyboy · 29 May 2008 at 20:19

AcidHell2 said:
They don't care what you say, you do not have paper work to show you are insured. End of. It was on a public road you need Third party insurance. Regardless if you where driving or not.

I dont have the paper work but the ppl i bought it of will. i would be insured third party anyway, i have the papers for that.

Glaucus · 29 May 2008 at 20:20

scottyboy said:
ive never done this before..

Yes you have, in a previous thread that we all keep linking to.

Skeeter · 29 May 2008 at 20:21

scottyboy said:
I dont have the paper work but the ppl i bought it of will. i would be insured third party anyway, i have the papers for that.

Please explain how it came about you think you were insured?

mike5678 · 29 May 2008 at 20:21

Skeeter said:
Mike, look. We get your point, and we all understand what your trying to say, but your comments are not working in your favor. Owning something does not make you in charge of it. If I own my car and my sister drives it she is in charge of it, not me. I can be as drunk as I like, hell, i can be slumped in the rear seat off my face for all I care, there is no offence.

Yes, using or planning to use a car while drunk is an offence, but common sence over rules the wording when you seperate the intent or even the posibility of being able to drive.

Ok I'm bored of it now. I even got my books out covering the issue to prove my point. Anyway, consider it over.

scottyboy · 29 May 2008 at 20:22

Yozz76 said:
Do you think that this fella might be winding us all up? Can't believe that someone would post something like this without having any remorse. He is probably buzzing from response it has stirred.

i give up. i have remorse i didnt answer my phone or messages all day after i got out i was so depressed about it.

Tom|Nbk · 29 May 2008 at 20:24