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Tevez has done a much better and more consistent job than Rooney though?

Rooney for 2 years has been quite a passenger (in relation to the rest of the team as opposed to other EPL strikers). 2 years ago Rooney was something special. If we brought Torres in it would be Rooney to the bench for me.
 
NokkonWud said:
Tevez has done a much better and more consistent job than Rooney though?

Rooney for 2 years has been quite a passenger (in relation to the rest of the team as opposed to other EPL strikers). 2 years ago Rooney was something special. If we brought Torres in it would be Rooney to the bench for me.
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I think thats harsh. I don't recall seeing Tevez being asked to become a winger every other game like Rooney often is.
His season hasn't been good, it's been interrupted by injury a lot and he has played in his best position very infrequently but I would still have him over Tevez to partner Torres. On paper they could be a dream partnership. Certainly I would see him getting more out of torres than Tevez.
 
SiHH said:
We (Nottm Forest) have just completed the signing of Rob Earnshaw for £2.65m on a 3 year deal.
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£2.7 million

In the Championship.

Wow. Just wow.

I mean fair play, Rob Earnshaw is a Champ level player, but that's a heck of a lot of money for that level. In a way, I'm just glad Hull didn't get him, as he's the kiss of death to newly-promoted teams.
 
I'm chuffed to get 2.7m for Earnshaw. Good player but didn't get the breaks at Derby.
I reckon it will come back to haunt us though:(
Still Ellington on a years loan isn't bad business.
 
NokkonWud said:
Tevez has done a much better and more consistent job than Rooney though?

Rooney for 2 years has been quite a passenger (in relation to the rest of the team as opposed to other EPL strikers). 2 years ago Rooney was something special. If we brought Torres in it would be Rooney to the bench for me.
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While I agree that Rooney has not progressed as much as we had all hoped, he has still progressed, it's a bit unfortunate for him that Ronaldo has hit top form in the last two years. I think Rooney needs a long term partner up front, something he hasn't had at club and international level at any time in his career. I'd always have Rooney on the team sheet first ahead of anyone else in our squad.
 
johnyccc said:
I think thats harsh. I don't recall seeing Tevez being asked to become a winger every other game like Rooney often is.
His season hasn't been good, it's been interrupted by injury a lot and he has played in his best position very infrequently but I would still have him over Tevez to partner Torres. On paper they could be a dream partnership. Certainly I would see him getting more out of torres than Tevez.
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I think that's an excuse born out of convenience I'm afraid, it's one I hear often, but even at Everton Rooney played coming off the wing and he has done it 4 years at Man Utd now. It seems the foot injuries have had a massive impact not only on his progress, but also his ability and confidence.

If Rooney got his confidence sorted he'd be amazing, but he isn't the head down have a go hero he once was, he now backs out of tackles, doesn't shoot anywhere close to what he should and his passing ability and clever dinks aren't in the league required if you're gonna pull shots all the time.

Rooney of two years ago was streets ahead of the Rooney now, nothing has changed bar his confidence and several broken feet.

Tevez on the other hand gets stuck in and holds the ball as well as anyone in the Premier League, he doesn't lose his head like Rooney, he helps the team just as much in midfield, possibly more, he's a better short passer and he has more energy to get up and around when everyone else is tiring.

Rooney playing well gets in ahead of Tevez, but Tevez aside from scoring more goals in the EPL, is actually just a hell of a lot more consistent. Some of Rooneys performances this season have been diabolical, not just for the Premier League or Europe, but at any level, he just doesn't turn up and his Champions League final was perhaps the crowning jewel of his bad season.

Hopefully with a long summer of recovery, without a major tournament or any injury he can come back a real force, it's what I'm hoping for, hell, it's what I expect any Man Utd player worth their salt to do, and I really hope that's the case.
 
Linoge said:
While I agree that Rooney has not progressed as much as we had all hoped, he has still progressed, it's a bit unfortunate for him that Ronaldo has hit top form in the last two years. I think Rooney needs a long term partner up front, something he hasn't had at club and international level at any time in his career. I'd always have Rooney on the team sheet first ahead of anyone else in our squad.
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Ahead of Ferdinand and Vidic? No chance :p.
 
Well at least Rooney isn't overweight like Tevez, who still carries a lot of excess bulk which I would guess is holding him back.
Still, Rooney has a lot to offer. I think mentally he is very weak. He is always angry with someone and that can't help but to stop him from reaching his potential.
I find it odd that both Tevez's fatness and Rooney's temper haven't been removed by SAF. (ofc he can't 'remove a temper but surely get it under control)
 
Tevez is overweight? Really?
I could have sworn he was covering yardage like a machine against Barcelona! Hell, he does it every game.

Believe me, Tevez isn't overweight, he's a big lad. Players don't stay overweight under Fergie. So I'd like to think how that's holding him back? He's pretty much the same size as Rooney, but he's stronger.
 
NokkonWud said:
Tevez is overweight? Really?
I could have sworn he was covering yardage like a machine against Barcelona! Hell, he does it every game.

Believe me, Tevez isn't overweight, he's a big lad. Players don't stay overweight under Fergie. So I'd like to think how that's holding him back? He's pretty much the same size as Rooney, but he's stronger.
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How Tevez is built helps him, he battles with players a lot bigger than him, if he was at his size, and stick thin, he'd end up on the floor 100% of the time.
 
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