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AMD 9850 Black Edition

Fothsn said:
How are you typing this? Don’t mean to be rude but am genuinely interested? Are you using a mouse?

You can overclock Intel processors within Windows with clockgen and similar type software, must admit its nowhere near the level as AMDs tool.
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problem with clockgen is its to basic, no voltage controls, no memory timing controls..

i use the mouse with my chin and a on screen keyboard.. see below..

 
gareth170 said:
problem with clockgen is its to basic, no voltage controls, no memory timing controls..

i use the mouse with my chin and a on screen keyboard.. see below..

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Ah okay :) Isn’t there any speaking software that would be easier than using your chin good way to improvise mind :D

Well as you can’t use the bios due to not being able to use a keyboard, AMD is the perfect choice :D would be nice if the Intel platform had a decent windows overclocking tool.
 
Fothsn said:
Ah okay :) Isn’t there any speaking software that would be easier than using your chin good way to improvise mind :D

Well as you can’t use the bios due to not being able to use a keyboard, AMD is the perfect choice :D would be nice if the Intel platform had a decent windows overclocking tool.
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the problem with Speech Recognition software is when i tell it to do something it does something else because i can't speak well. so i have a good arguemeant with it lol..

i agree intel should think about doing something like amd overdrive..
 
I've got to say, in that context AMD's Overdrive is perfect. It's certainly the best software overclocking tool I've seen.
 
I must say, 40oC loaded for a 125W TDP chip is quite impressive - they normally go for a bit more than that on air cooling from what I've read.

With regard to their performance, clock for clock: at stock they're generally slightly slower than the Q6600, but as soon as they both reach 3.2GHz, the Phenom is actually slightly faster, presumably a result of the increased rate of transfer to the L3 cache which isn't as rapid at lower clocks...
 
mrthingyx said:
I must say, 40oC loaded for a 125W TDP chip is quite impressive - they normally go for a bit more than that on air cooling from what I've read.
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yeah. its really good. but is that the core temp or Ambient Case Temp? if he was looking at EVEREST Ultimate Edition it shows two temps. one for the cpu = Ambient Case Temp and the other for the cores..

at stock mine idas at 45c and under load is 52c.. at 3ghz it idas at 49c under load is 57c.

is there an better cooler than the one i have now (Akasa AK-922 EVO Blue)? or is this one about the as best for air cooling? if so do u guys recommand the Swiftech H2O 120 Compact Kit?
 
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Ben M said:
I'm sorry, TT 120 is commonly used instead of using tuniq tower, I thought you'd just missed it rather than not knowing.
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Nice to know, first thing that came to me was Thermaltake Typhoon, although since checking it's proper name I can see abbreviation was too short.
 
gareth170 said:
yeah. its really good. but is that the core temp or Ambient Case Temp? if he was looking at EVEREST Ultimate Edition it shows two temps. one for the cpu = Ambient Case Temp and the other for the cores..

at stock mine idas at 45c and under load is 52c.. at 3ghz it idas at 49c under load is 57c.

is there an better cooler than the one i have now (Akasa AK-922 EVO Blue)? or is this one about the as best for air cooling? if so do u guys recommand the Swiftech H2O 120 Compact Kit?
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Was taking my figure from AMD Overdrive, so it was the CPU temps not the case temps. Dont use everest much, just overdrive for monitoring
 
it seemd like on amd site they go by the Ambient Case Temp not core temp, so does this mean we should be look at the Ambient Case Temps instead of the core temps?

i can't find any info on the max core temp.. the only info there is about the Ambient Case Temp which is 61c max..

ive emailed amd so hopeful ill get a reply tomorrow..
 
gareth170 said:
it seemd like on amd site they go by the Ambient Case Temp not core temp, so does this mean we should be look at the Ambient Case Temps instead of the core temps?

i can't find any info on the max core temp.. the only info there is about the Ambient Case Temp which is 61c max..

ive emailed amd so hopeful ill get a reply tomorrow..
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I think you can be reasonably (reasonably) sure that the max temp is 65oC at the lowest: it simply would not be practical to try and squeeze a 125W TDP chip into a low temperature bracket.

I don't have much experience with new air cooling solutions, I'm afraid - I'm a custom watercooler. :(
 
i just received an email back from amd.

"Dear Gareth,
Thank you for contacting AMD Tech Support

Maximal external ambient case temperature is 35C. 61C would be max core
temperature.

Thanks <(>&<)> regards"

that can't be right?? because at stock it idas at :
CPU 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 45 °C (113 °F)

under load:
CPU 43 °C (109 °F) does this = ambient case temperature?? if yes then its way to high
CPU #1 / Core #1 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 51 °C (124 °F)

on http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU Temperatures.shtml site it says the ambient case temperature is 61c max :confused:. so who's right?
Please be aware that as faster models are released even under the same name the thermal requirements may change. this table is meant for a guide only. Critical temperature is often referred as Critical Case temperature as CPU core temperatures are difficult to report accurately.

AMD Phenom X4 (9100, 9750, 9850) 61?C
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and this site http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/print/phenom-x4-9850.html
AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition
Marking
HD985ZXAJ4BGH
Clock frequency
2.5 GHz
Packaging
Socket AM2+
L2 cache
4 x 512KB
L3 cache
2MB
Memory controller
Dual-channel 128-bit
Supported memory types
DDR2-533/667/800/1066 SDRAM
North Bridge frequency
2.0GHz
HyperTransport bus frequency
2.0GHz (HyperTransport 3.0)
Processor stepping
B3
Production process
65nm, SOI
Transistors
450 mln.
Die size
285sq.mm
TDP
125W
Max ambient case temperature
61ºC
Vcore
1.2V - 1.3V
AMD64 technology
Yes
SIMD instructions
MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A[
Cool'n'Quiet technology
Yes
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You know, im quite amazed. For someone who uses their chin to type, your grammar and english is far superior to a lot of people ive seen on this forum.
 
gareth170 said:
i just received an email back from amd.

"Dear Gareth,
Thank you for contacting AMD Tech Support

Maximal external ambient case temperature is 35C. 61C would be max core
temperature.

Thanks <(>&<)> regards"

that can't be right?? because at stock it idas at :
CPU 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 45 °C (113 °F)

under load:
CPU 43 °C (109 °F) does this = ambient case temperature?? if yes then its way to high
CPU #1 / Core #1 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 51 °C (124 °F)

on http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU Temperatures.shtml site it says the ambient case temperature is 61c max :confused:. so who's right?


and this site http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/print/phenom-x4-9850.html
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Cool -my bad...
 
just had my mobo fail :( gonna rma it but bought an Asus M2N-Sli nForce 560 Sli. whats this like the the 9850? maybe get cooler than it is atm!!!
 
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