Oh come on don't be such a pedant, it's blatantly obvious what she meant. While petrol is an essential component of our industry and lifestyles, driving a truck containing it can hardly be called a noble, worthwhile job in comparison to many out there such as knip looking after special needs children for relative pittance. They are driving a truck on the roads from A to B and getting paid almost 40k, more than many managers get at accountancy firms. They should be counting their bloody blessings.
Tanker drivers strike rant
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Oh come on don't be such a pedant, it's blatantly obvious what she meant. While petrol is an essential component of our industry and lifestyles, driving a truck containing it can hardly be called a noble, worthwhile job in comparison to many out there such as knip looking after special needs children for relative pittance. They are driving a truck on the roads from A to B and getting paid almost 40k, more than many managers get at accountancy firms. They should be counting their bloody blessings.
Move to 80's Russia, you might like it there.....
The reason people are "jumping on your head" is because you dont seem to quite understand the implications of not having people move massive quantities of fuel around the country.
You're emotionally attached to your job and it is quite obviously clouding your judgement, to you your job is one of the most important around it seems. Fair enough in your bubble of life it may well be but would everyone who lived in the same house/street/town/county notice if you and your colleagues stopped working? Now ask yourself if people in your house/street/town/county would notice if none of them had fuel or goods.
You're missing the point.
It IS a worthwhile job.
I can't recall anyone ever stating that people should be paid for the 'nobility' of their job.
what you forget to look at is hourly rate, especially as most will be sleeping in there truck. A yearly figure means sweet * all.
yeah but a oil company manager does slightly more to affect profits/earnings than the drivers.
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No, i'm just not agreeing with yours. There is a difference.
But my point had nothing to do with nobility.
That was just a word I used to emphasize what I was saying... don't focus on it, it's not an important part of the argument. *sigh*
What I was saying that I don't believe that people who get paid significant amounts of money to drive from A to B, no matter what they transport, should be blockading stations and refineries and bringing parts of the country to a standstill when they are MUCH better off than so many others doing (in my opinion) much harder and more worthwhile jobs for significantly less pay.
What I was saying that I don't believe that people who get paid significant amounts of money to drive from A to B, no matter what they transport, should be blockading stations and refineries and bringing parts of the country to a standstill when they are MUCH better off than so many others doing (in my opinion) much harder and more worthwhile jobs for significantly less pay.
who decides what is worthwhile or important. Who decides what is hard? what is easy for one person is hard for another.
You have to ask how many people could cope with the conditions of a hgv driver? certainly not many.
Its perfectly "fair" in a capitalist society, its how our economy works.
Again, what you are lusting for is a demi-socialist society.
Not really, but you open yourself up to critism with some posts;
Thats your choice, I would sugest you are underpayed, but to wish everyone be underpayed to please you is hardly the point here. Maybe you try asking for a pay rise.
Not to say your work is less relevant, but what costs do you incure for reaptitive qualification asssments ( to be able to do you job).
Well good for you, standing firm is a noble trait, you seem to have something in common with the Tanker drivers there.
You will always get Job worth more then others, due to skill required, skill shortages, level of risk to oneslelf and others etc etc.
And rightly so, I would hardly consider I be payed more then a Profesional occupation that have spent longer in eduaction (although to be said not all must constantly take updates to their qualification like some trades), although as a tradesman, if I am willing to put the hours in I can possibly make the same PA.
But that is a sacrifice based on hours worked < family/personal time.
As for you, it does seem you need to question if you are happy doing what you are currently, and if not retrain for something else?
Who decides what is worthwhile or important? People in power, me and you, anyone with an opinion basically. I personally don't agree at all with the old chestnut "it's all a matter of opinion", some things ARE more important and more worthwhile than others. £39k to drive a truck is a lot of money no matter which way you spin it... and some would say more than adequate recompense for sitting on your arse in a truck for half the day. If they were international HGV drivers going accross countries and permanently sleeping in their dingy little cabs then yes... I would consider their conditions poor. But UK-based drivers... not as much
It's a bloody good wage, a professional wage... and from what I just saw on the news some sources were saying they rejected a few k payrise, so it seems like they're looking for around 50k to do their job. Too much imo.
It's a bloody good wage, a professional wage... and from what I just saw on the news some sources were saying they rejected a few k payrise, so it seems like they're looking for around 50k to do their job. Too much imo.
don't be so rediculuse.
50hrs driving + unsociable and weekend allowance + lodgeing away in the truck. You probably get paid more per hour at a supermarket.
The union said they want a 2k pay rise. So I highly doubt they rejected a couple of K pay rise.
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Thats how the world works, also you clearly don't want it to be fair as you have said multiple times you think your job is much more worthwhile than a drivers. YOu think you should get the same or more money because of the worth of your job.
IF the government wasn't ruining our economy creating thousands of needless public sector jobs to hide the lack of real jobs, then there would be more money available for teachers, nurses and paramedics, firemen. But thats life, we have a sucky government, that will never pay correctly in public sector jobs. Frankly long haul driving is boring, long hours and lonely, most people can't do that. Some people can't sit on their own for 8 hours everyday, they are paid for it being a fairly unsocial job and it being difficult on those terms. You might think you are highly skilled, but that means nothing if you try it for 2 weeks and find you simply can not be isolated that much and can't do the work for that reason. Also, they aren't anywhere near as overpaid as half the public sector who barely bother working, and are overpaid before they abuse their job. The amount of people in the NHS and other places who call in sick, on a pretty well paid job and barely work when they are in, is sickening. The public sector is not underpaid, its massively overstaffed, in all the wrong area's. IF they paid an office of 3 people instead of an office of 15 who do the same amount of work, then you could have more money.
WHy not complain to the government, about the government, because thats where your problem lies, not the long haul drivers. Who by delivering stuff all day long reduce the cost of every single last thing you buy.
why does it matter if it's 50p or 10k.
And I'm sure it's more than just money. you hardly ever here the full facts.
What ahve you heard about the rmyt strike this weekend? I bet it isn't even the tip of the ice burg.