Nvidia GTX 280 - IN STOCK NOW!!!

[Johnboyjoe]

i feel a special olympics moment coming on

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Doesn't that chart show SLi scaling better though, as the second GT adds more frames than the second 3870.

For example in cod 4, the second GT adds an extra 31.7 frames, where as the second 3870, only adds an extra 23.4.

 

[icey_haj]

Or open a can of whoop ass? God that was a horrendous line

Seems to me there is somewhat of a philosophical approach being adopted here by the Nvidia faithful, in that if there single GPU solution is comparable to the competitions dual GPU, then, they win. Now, I can actually identify with that, dual card solutions do have there problems. However, if ATi are offering you a cheaper quicker solution, its hard to ignore.

The 4870X2 is going to be quite a bit different to the 3870X2, and hopefully much of the crossfire solutions will be resolved (as in working more like a single gpu card, rather than 2 cpus). Yet if the results of the 4850 we are seeing proove to be accurate, they have Nvidia over a barrel. Only those with nforce boards will be in a difficult position (and even they can get a 4870X2 ).

Martyn

lol @ nvidia over a barrel. I have nforce mobo Its either a single 4870 or 4870X2 for me (although it might be a bit too expensive)

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Doesn't that chart show SLi scaling better though, as the second GT adds more frames than the second 3870.

thats what im trying to say, but the n00bs or should i say b00bs on this forum just dont seem to understand.

 

[Tom|Nbk]

Doesn't that chart show SLi scaling better though, as the second GT adds more frames than the second 3870.

For example in cod 4, the second GT adds an extra 31.7 frames, where as the second 3870, only adds an extra 23.4.

One game. On average Crossfire is known to scale better.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

One game. On average Crossfire is known to scale better.

again you say crossfire is better, when its clearly show that its not better.
id also post the benches of the 9600gt in sli but its just too much work to copy highlight and upload pics and then post onto the forum. you lucky im damn lazy today or you'd get owned 3 times in one night.

 

[psychas]

im still waiting for your comeback in the other thread. i really doubt you can reply to that that one.

i think u in his ignore list he cant see your posts anymore

 

[queamin]

When adding extra card and scaling it got to be the % of the first card,
IF
1) one card is 100 fps and 2 are 180 fsp that 80% scaling
2)other card is 75 fps and 150 fps that 100% scaling
even when 2 is slower the scaling to that card is higher as the base fsp is lower

that what i understand of it anyway

And to be honest i would go on what people are getting on this forums when using 2 cards over a review

 

[Dravic]

Doesn't that chart show SLi scaling better though, as the second GT adds more frames than the second 3870.

For example in cod 4, the second GT adds an extra 31.7 frames, where as the second 3870, only adds an extra 23.4.

You also have to consider that the 3870x2 is clocked higher than a standard 3870, slanting the results slightly.

 

[J.D]

delete please

 

[Tom|Nbk]

Cyber-mav. Be quiet for crying out loud. You done this last year and done nothing but ruin threads like you're attempting now. Please don't do this again .

I had the 2900Pro past XT speeds and then moved to the GTX. All the utter nonsense you were dribbling out before was meaningless. I had the card and seen if for myself. Not like you, humming and hawing over reviews whilst gaming on your X1900XT. You screamed like it was the worst card in history when it wasn't that bad and sometimes faster without AA than my GTX.

I hope the MODS will do their best to keep your nonsense out of these threads as I feel you get far too much leniency shown. You're that one sided you are like a bull, see red (ATI) and you go charging. You do all this whilst running AMD/ATI combo in your sig (a blonde plank of wood).

Point is that if 2x 4850 is beating the GTX 260 for the same price or lower then guess what. It's a flimmin' victory to ATI. You're saying that if the X2 4870 is needed to beat the GTX 280 then it's a joke?. Just shows how much you know with the GTX 280 being 2 cores on the one chip . Now with the X2 3870 being 2 cores on 1 pcb and as a single graphics card I don't know what you're saying really as like always, sense escapes you .

All that matters Mav is that everyone wants better gaming performances for the cheapest. If the X2 4870 beats the GTX 280 then that's it game over. ATI win the round. Especially if it's cheaper. If 2x 4850's beat the GTX 260 and are priced about the same then the GTX 260 will be seemed as a failed attempt also. I hate how one sided you are Mav. It really shows the reasons to never listen to you in the graphics section here at OCUK.

Oh and Cyber. SLI and Crossfire both scale quite well. In some titles ATI scale better, in some Nvidia do. The fact that Crossfire is showing up well and sometimes scaling better on Nvidia based games (The way it's meant to be paid logo) is why Crossfire is seen in such a good light. Before Crossfire was scaling better. Maybe now SLi has caught up but until I see an informative and UNBIASED review of this I'll keep thinking that crossfire scales a little bit better.

Well said. Don't try arguing, doesn't get the point that scalibility is how much % increase another card adds and not overall performance. Add to ignore and forget.

 

[J.D]

Well I had deleted before you posted Tom as at the end of it I just couldn't be bothered. I had just woken up so I do apologise for being rude. I just detest the blatant hatred for no apparent reason.

He done the same with R600 and will continue to do this from now on regardless, so I felt why even bother writing anything when it will get ignored. Yes, I might get a reply but it would be in defence of why he is a fanboy and that ATI have done him over and are the worst company in the world etc. Fact is the 2900 didn't do AA as well and one or two titles without AA still favoured Nvidia (Timeshift and I feel UT3, only 2 titles though). It drew a lot of power and was noisy. 6 months later (the time it took Nvidia to get a DRIVER out) the 3800 series arrives with aggressive pricing, half the power draw, less heat and with a better fan. Then X2 3870 arrived. If that's a sign of a terrible company to someone then they are deluded. The 2900 wasn't as bad as the FX5000 series from Nvidia many moons ago but I don't hear Mav still go on about that one?.

I have had more ATI cards in my time. I have had incredible gaming sessions with ATI but yet I have a GTX and it's the best card I've ever had. Since G80 Nvidia have been in the driving seat but as soon as the 3800 series was launched they've been losing ground a little with terrible support as well as DX10.1 nonsense they are involved in. Now the 4800 series is nearly here and it looks as if for cheaper we may be able to surpass Nvidia in performance even with AA. If that's not a turnaround and a half then what is?. ATI and Microsoft want to change the architecture and ATI went for it, yes it was the wrong time as Nvidia were smart enough to see that they could still do wonders the old way. Probably had insight about all the problems that they would be facing and went for performance and that is fair play, they have the right to choose. ATI tried it, seen it as a problem in today's market and have changed accordingly. I think it's beginning to look like they've done a wonderful job this time round.

Even though I've had ATI running most of my gaming I won't disregard G80/G92(GT/GTS) as they are excellent cards. GX2/G92 GTX were not needed for 9 series based cards unless this FUD article is true about the magical performance upgrade driver for the G92 GTX. Anywho, the point I'm trying to make is that even though ATI had a bad round there is no need to disregard them like a second rate company as we all know throughout our time that ATI have been a major player in this game. Mav, your comments make it sound like ATI haven't got a clue due to R600 which wasn't all that bad (I had one) and that only lasted 6 months before they fixed everything including pricing to reflect performance. Add 2 cards that equalled the G80GTX price at the time and you had a little bit better performances. That does not seem like a failure to me.

I can't bash Nvidia for performances in this round. They've done an excellent job (hugs GTX ) . Their lethargically alert approach to innovation and support is something they need to change though. Using dirty tricks to halt things like DX10.1 (still to be properly tested I know) and with all TWIMTBP games that will be better supported for Nvidia cards make life difficult for ATI. If ATI do Nvidia some damage here then it's good for all Nvidia users. Nvidia will have to shake things up again and start working like they did with G80. Then things could become exciting again. Don't get me wrong, the GTX 280 is an incredible card, but at an incredible price and with the 3800 series and GT/GTS G92 cards doing so well it's a crazy thing to try and price a card so highly when it's price for performance that rule the day now. Gone are the days of needing top dollar for high end FPS and that's why I think ATI (if priced correctly) are going to do really well this time. If ATI do start to take control then I wonder if the GTX 260/280 will either plummet in price or will Nvidia bring out something unexpected?.

 

[=VTA=MANFACE]

This launch of ATI/nVIDIA's cards has had more drama, twists and turns than Coronation Street ! Now nV are launching a 9800GTX+ ? The GTX260/80 series is not really the finished product either, the b revision with the smaller core should have been the finished article. Seems like nV are flapping a bit trying to outdo ATI at every turn. Fair play to ATI, they have remained tight lipped.

The final episode is nearly here with launch of ATI's product.

 

[RizlaKing]

R600 was bad no two ways about it but to use that as a justification to slate all subsequent cards from Ati is stupid. Ati made improvements with the 3 series and look like they have made greater improvements with the 4 series. Benchmarks for the 4850 are looking very impressive and higher then a lot of people thought so credit where it is due.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

R600 was bad no two ways about it but to use that as a justification to slate all subsequent cards from Ati is stupid. Ati made improvements with the 3 series and look like they have made greater improvements with the 4 series. Benchmarks for the 4850 are looking very impressive and higher then a lot of people thought so credit where it is due.

only reason why 4850 so far seems to be good is the predicted price. nvidia have jacked up the gt200 series prices but thats expected seeing as how its currently the fastest single cards on the market. i have no doubts that nvidia will lower the prices in a few weeks time once r700 appears on shelves. question is, will r700 still seem attactive once nvidia deflates the prices of gt200 to where they should be??

 

[FrenchTart]

Wouldn't it make more sense that they keep the prices where they are given this 9800GTX+ that's coming out? It'd fill the price gap nicely.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Wouldn't it make more sense that they keep the prices where they are given this 9800GTX+ that's coming out? It'd fill the price gap nicely.

with all these nvidia cards doing the rounds iv lost the plot on where pricing and performance stands for them??

is the 9800gtx+ going to be faster yet cheaper than a regular 9800gtx?

 

[FrenchTart]

I think it's going to be the same price as the 9800GTX currently and the current 9800GTX will drop in price a bit.

I think that's mentioned in the pc perspective article so god-knows how reliable that is.

 

[Strife212]

The GTX260/80 series is not really the finished product either, the b revision with the smaller core should have been the finished article.

Why is everyone saying this? Whats the shrink going to do? Nothing most likely; the G92 is worse than G80.

Its not even hot, mine fully loads at 71c and is no louder than my 8800GTX.

 

[HEADRAT]

Less heat, less power = less cooling