We all did marathons at some point in our careers, some of, working for themselves - still do. The point is - in regular employment - it's illegal. Workers cannot be forced to work for more than 48 hours (including overtime) in each seven day period and you must have uninterrupted time off of at least 24 hours in each working week or two consecutive days off in every 14-day period. And then you have the additional dance routines - employees that work night shifts must work no longer than 8 hour shifts in any 24 hour period, all workers must have minimum of 11 hours rest between each work day and so on, so forth.
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We all did marathons at some point in our careers, some of, working for themselves - still do. The point is - in regular employment - it's illegal. Workers cannot be forced to work for more than 48 hours (including overtime) in each seven day period and you must have uninterrupted time off of at least 24 hours in each working week or two consecutive days off in every 14-day period. And then you have the additional dance routines - employees that work night shifts must work no longer than 8 hour shifts in any 24 hour period, all workers must have minimum of 11 hours rest between each work day and so on, so forth.
I'm not a parent but where do the CSA get these figures from? what costs that much for a child? £250(£500) and £400(£800)
If the father pays his share, what costs £800 per month for a child!
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Who says anything about forced? OP says he works "Everyday", i merely pointed out that if he indeed does work 7 days a week he would have more money than he says he is earning. Also if he didn't work 7 days a week, one would presume that he would do everything in his power to stay above water, ie, take on a second job in the weekend/evening to pay bills, like many people have to do.
Nothing forced, necessities and the will to stay afloat.
Also, why can't it now be that point in his career where he does his "marathon?" If he doesn't work 7 days a week and the choice between losing the house and everything compared to working the weekend. I'd work the weekends.
£35 really isn't nearly enough.. However:
In the mean-time do that, and seek legal advise.
The CSA are absolute scum.
They've been stealing obscene amounts of money from my Dad he can't afford, then failing to even pay my mother. She only receives a payment maybe once every 3 months and it's less than a single monthly payment they thieve from my Dad.
Every department in this government is filled with utter retards, but the CSA are possibly the worst. Under no circumstances would I ever recommend getting them involved. Nobody but the government would be better off.
Try and organise something with the mother of your child, even if she just gets a standing order on a set date each month.
They've been stealing obscene amounts of money from my Dad he can't afford, then failing to even pay my mother. She only receives a payment maybe once every 3 months and it's less than a single monthly payment they thieve from my Dad.
Every department in this government is filled with utter retards, but the CSA are possibly the worst. Under no circumstances would I ever recommend getting them involved. Nobody but the government would be better off.
Try and organise something with the mother of your child, even if she just gets a standing order on a set date each month.
What I mean is no employer will write a rota without taking those rules into account, as it costs £5,000 per pop if you don't comply.
It's just presumption. £850 a week is roughly £12,500 per annum. £240 a week. Which means he can't be working more than 43-44 hours a week or he would be paid below statutory minimum wage.
Besides. Would anyone do a marathon and multiple jobs to bring home £850? You do 7 day weeks when a day of your services is worth £280+ (plus overtime, where applies), not when it's worth £28.
In any case, as harsh as it sounds, at the moment it would be in OP's best interest not to do 7 day weeks, because if he proves he can stay afloat clutching at straws by working 7 days a week, 30 days a month, they will never step down. In his situation 20% of wage is the max he can afford and that's that.
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A bit over the top but way not go work outside the UK, send money for your kid and tell the csa to do one?
Haven't read all the thread.
Other week I had a letter from the CSA with the following facts:
They want £414 per month for child maintenance.
I did have a court arrangement to pay off £6000 over 5 years. This debt had occured because during my time of redundancy, they insisted I owed them money (even though I have proof of no income). Despite this, they still insisted the money was owing. However, they have 'executed their right' to ask for this now over 2 years.
So I've now to pay an additional £250pm, on top of the £414 coming straight out of my wages.
With an average wage of £1400pm, that's almost 50% of my income gone.
Won't bore you with the details, but a few people know on here, good friends, etc.
But I've had enough, I too have thought **** them, and have several job interviews lined up in South Africa.
The CSA have forced me to leave the country I love because they are quite simply unfair, unjust and really non-negotioable.
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Other week I had a letter from the CSA with the following facts:
They want £414 per month for child maintenance.
I did have a court arrangement to pay off £6000 over 5 years. This debt had occured because during my time of redundancy, they insisted I owed them money (even though I have proof of no income). Despite this, they still insisted the money was owing. However, they have 'executed their right' to ask for this now over 2 years.
So I've now to pay an additional £250pm, on top of the £414 coming straight out of my wages.
With an average wage of £1400pm, that's almost 50% of my income gone.
Won't bore you with the details, but a few people know on here, good friends, etc.
But I've had enough, I too have thought **** them, and have several job interviews lined up in South Africa.
The CSA have forced me to leave the country I love because they are quite simply unfair, unjust and really non-negotioable.
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Well I would like to defend the CSA *Puts flame proof coat on* The CSA do not Skim off the top they are a non profit company. And they either pass on the money to the parents with care or the Seceraty of State if the Parent with care is on benfits as the goverment is already paying for the child. It is not the staffs fault the legistation was implemented the way it was but it is and we have to deal with it every day.
To the OP are you new rules or old rules? When was the case started?
And yeah I work for them
To the OP are you new rules or old rules? When was the case started?
And yeah I work for them
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My view is that it is his best interest to get as much money as possible to stay afloat, he already stated that he is paying less now but it is the backdated payment that is taking him UNDER. Therefore it is solved by taking on a second job and get through this rough few months.
Refuse to pay the arreas...........i had a similar problem quite a few years back they turned around and said that i owed £1800 and actually demanded all of it in one lump sum. I asked how could that be when i have submitted all the renewals on time and accurately. I told them point blank that i would not pay for their mistake. I made it clear i had no problem paying maintainance but i would not be put under financial strain because of an error by them. They ended up writing half of the debt off, i wanst totally happy at that but there is only so much you can do. Go to the CAB or seek advice from a solicitor.
My daughters mother works part time and lives with someone else.
Plenty of people live on their own with that sort of pay and worse, so what are you going on about
Anyway he was fine before the CSA...
750+food from 850 really isnt enough imho.
I really feel for you. I would definitely speak to your ex and try and come to an arrangement. Just let her know that if things keep going the way they are you can't afford to live, would have to leave work to live on benefits and wouldn't be able to pay her any money at all.
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Only thing is i know my brothers dad never paid my mum it and then justified it when my brother started working part time as "you're making your own money now". Being the person she is my mum lied when she got a letter from a solicitor looking for him!
They take more than they give to the mother,thats for sure.
They take more than they give to the mother,thats for sure.
Maybe he was paid cash in hand/self employed so it wasn't possible for the CSA to automatically deduct it...
So do the majority of divorced families rely on the CSA to get the money? Because I really only see them being of use if one party is refusing to pay.
For me, when my ex and I split, I agreed to pay her £250pm which is an amount we both agreed on, and we had an amicable 'friendship' for the benefit of our daughter.
Month after month, on the dot, money was transfered from my account into hers.
At that time she wasn't working, claiming benefits, and the CSA sent her a letter to say that they would be prepared to take over the case to make matters easier and more official.
When a single woman, bringing up a child on her own sees something like that, then she's gonna obviously welcome the help.
Bottom line is now, and I would really LOVE to hear what the person who says they work for CSA has to say about this, is that every month I have £654 deducted from my earnings. I'm on 'old-scheme' meaning they are allowed to take 30% of my income (new cases are on 15% but the CSA don't have the mental capability to move old cases onto the new 'fairer' percentage because it seems to much hard work), however I digress, but me, paying £654 from my wages you'd think would go straight to my ex. Nope, she has in her account every month, from the CSA, the total of £384. So where does the remaining £270 go?
So yeah, I agree, they should be there if one of the parents is refusing to pay, it's morally wrong for a parent to simply forget their responsibilities, but unfortunately people like me can't help but simply doubt and snub comments from people when they say "But all the money goes", "But we're fair", "But we only target non payers", 'cos quite simply, it's rubbish!