Rogue or Warrior (wow DPS PVE)

Dark_Angel

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Who does the most PVE damage and how is a better choice ?

I won't hardly ever / never PVE - I am in a PVE server, so PVP stuff is useless. I am just looking for a physical damage person as I currently have a ranged one.

Opinions on who is better overall / better DPS would be great :)
 
An equally geared and well played Rogue will always out dps a fury Warrior (imo). But most servers are packed with Rogues, and so rolling Warrior often gives you more utility as you're able able to tank instances/raids - although you'll probably need a respec to do anything other than OT as fury/arms.

But then a Rogue brings sap, stuns, poisons, interupts to a party. A 'dps' warrior brings... ? lol

I have a Rogue and a Warrior, if you want a pure dps role I'd say Rogue.
 
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I have both a 70 rogue and a 70 warrior and mainly did pve. The rogue is more fun to play when leveling and soloing i found... stealthing to do quests etc. If you spec for subtlety while leveling you can have a good time :p

Warrior was a bit more boring to level but still relatively fun. You WILL end up having to tank to get groups now that the old world is empty unless you roll on a new server where the population is less mature.

End game wise its really all upto how you want to play, a properly specced and geared rogue can do massive damage... warriors also but you will tend to find that you are leaned on to spec for being a tank/offtank just to get invites. In a good guild where there is no pressure you could have fun as a dps warrior.

The warrior class has the option to play in two styles where as really with a rogue ( for pve ) its pretty much the same no matter the spec.

To be honest if i were to roll a class now it wound be a shammy :p they are such fun to play end game ( by all accounts ).
 
Well -

I am already in a senior officer in a guild that is just starting T6 stuff. I have a Shadow Priest with like 1250 spell damage, but want a physical person too.

Someone told me that the rogues in our guild are doing very little damage compared to Warlocks for example a the moment which confused me ?

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Forgot to mention - we already have a lot of warrior tanks... so I wouldn't be asked to tank - maybe only on super rare occasion which I wouldnt mind... but I am not sure... rogues look really fun. Can't decide :(

Is leveling a lot quicker now ? I haven't tried to level since well before 2.4 was released...
 
Back in the days of Level 60 when I raided with both Warrior and my Rogue (Rogue was my main) I thought Warrior was far more fun.

Rage > Energy

Warlocks are good DPS, when I used to play mine I was always at the top, usually #1 or 2.
 
Dark_Angel said:
Someone told me that the rogues in our guild are doing very little damage compared to Warlocks for example a the moment which confused me ?
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Rogues need love in the form of a stacked group - a Shaman for Windfury, a Warrior with imp battleshout and a feral Druid for +5% crit. Once they get this the damage starts to fly.

I've not checked the WWS site for a couple of weeks, but last time I looked the top dps class on Brutallus (a fairly static tank and spank Sunwell fight) is the Hunter (by far), followed by (Warglaive) Rogues and then Warlocks.

Expect this to be changed - Rogues are effectively the dps benchmark by which others are judged. Hunters are currently overtuned, as are Locks. Expect this to be brought into line come the expansion.

Either way, a twinked Rogue is vastly easy to level and a lot of fun. I'm currently working on levelling a Warrior (level 62 now) and compared to the Rogue it's an exercise in pain and frustration.
 
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But then a Rogue brings sap, stuns, poisons, interupts to a party. A 'dps' warrior brings... ? lol
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Offtank, shouts (+health, +AP), interrupts, fears, intervene (keeps mobs off clothies). That's all I can think of atm - But a damn sight more than a rogue brings to a raid at least :P Rogues better for 5 mans though - Sap f t w.

Back on topic, I've seen fury warriors do way more dps than rogues but they have no means of reducing threat, so just pull aggro all the time. Rogues can feint etc. So I'd suggest a rogue - They're more suited to a dps role. Have you considered an enhancement shaman also?
 
If a fury warrior, enhance shammy or ret pally is out damaging a rogue in a static fight (like Brutallus) there is something seriously wrong.

I'd still personally roll a shammy tho, totally overpowered at the moment down all 3 talent trees.
 
Rogue for DPS - you can do fairly good DPS as a Warrior but 25 man Raids will normally only need one (for their melee dps group), and 5 man groups wont want to know you.
 
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I'd still personally roll a shammy tho, totally overpowered at the moment down all 3 talent trees.
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Blatant imbalances in PvE tend not to last too long (though arguably they can last 18 months or more in PvP). Shammies are currently much too powerful in PvE because of their group buffs and Chain Heal (resto only of course). Don't expect this to persist in WotLK.
 
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Grrrr... warrior or rogue :( Difficult to know :( :(
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Rogue everytime - seriously fun to play, great fun to level, great in PvP as well as PvE.

I have a 70 Rogue, 70 Shadow Priest and 70 Tank. Rogue is by far the most "fun" character I have.

Shadow priest are no longer the powerhouse they were pre-TBC and seem to be relegated to mana-battery duty in 25 man raids.

Tanks are like healers - ALWAYS in demand. But if you're not prot specced and not tanking then you're just a bad DPSer imho.
 
Agree with Moley, and another vote for Rogue.

- Rogues are sensational fun to play, excellent DPS.

- Warriors are less DPS, not as fun to play (imho) and you will be asked to tank a lot of the time.
 
To be completely honest with you, both classes will be picked long after the raid is filled with Mages and Warlocks so pick the one you prefer. Mages and Warlocks have crowd control and huuuge DPS, plus threat reduction. Shadow priests will also be picked due to mana efficiency for the rest of the raid. Rogues have threat reduction, but their DPS doesn't match that of a mage or a warlock, played correctly, and the CC abilities just wipe them out. Neither of them are as useful as mages or warlocks for the current raiding scenarios with very few exceptions.

Having said that, Rogues are a good DPS as a class, and with the right gear Warriors are awesome DPS but are way more gear dependant than rogues but you *must* join a guild that doesnt ask you to tank. Your Guild shouldnt ask shadow to priests to heal, fury warriors to tank etc. Otherwise, if you play a hybrid class, you should accept that you will be chosen long after dedicated roles have been filled.
 
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If you have a lot of rogues and war's already - maybe a druid would be better, they can heal, not like a healer, tank, nto as good as a fully spec'd tank and can do damage, not as good as a out and out damage dealer, but they can fill in for all 3 roles which makes them ice to have. Also, the battleres is nice for the tanks if it goes wrong. Shamen not sure on, never really had them ina group to see them at work.

But if you want a damage dealer that can be of use to your raid, i think a Druid would be good.
 
Druids are situational. On Azgalor is it? (the boss who silences in MH) druid healers are the best, on the grounds they can just stack a load of HoT's on the tank.

I agree about the PvE imbalances not being permanent. But I'm speaking as a raiding holy paladin and I am just feeling the pain of trying to keep up with resto shammies and CoH specced priests. Healers I used to destroy in SSC\TK but are mullering me now in BT\MH\SWP. :(
 
Fury warriors ***, but they need the right person to play it.

In my guild we have 2 amazing fury warriors - they get 4/5% more DPS than the rogues. The rogue are better kitted too and really really talented. DPS wise you will never catch a lock that is Destro spec with Sacrafice Sucubus and properly kitted for it. Locks are hitting for 5-8k a hit, even before t6.

I own 2 warriors - A prot one - my main. And a Fury DPS one ( that a mate gave me) and playing a fury warrior is sooo hard. I mean i have hte best fury kit in the guild and really really struggle to keep up with the 100% fury warriors.

IMHO i'll take a fury warrior that knows what they are doing over a rogue anyday. Thats just me personally. I'm a prot warrior day in day out so what do i know :)

Also i'm yet to see a DPS feral druid do anything decent tbh... or is that just me?
 
Fury warrior = wannabe rogue . We dont let fury warriors in our guild now and tbh although there dps aint bad they cant keep up with a well specced/played rogue .

also just watch in trade for all the fury spec looking for raids instances...nobody wants them . In 5 man and 25 man the only people who beat my dps is locks and hunters and the hunter has to be well geared and on the ball to do it ..

Plus rogues have a few great tricks to lose aggro ...stealth and sap for 5 man ....and there not even to bad at pvp even in pve spec .
Only problem is everyone has one but if yer in an established guild that should not be a problem .

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