NEW asus rampage extreme

Smirnoff said:
Yeh Intel are going to lunch normal Nehalem chips at the end of the year and total kill all sales of there current motherboards and chips.....lol
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but it all ready killing sales of core 2 chips and MB, people who are in the know are all ready waiting, the closer we get to the new stuff the more people will wait, it to Intel advantage to swap over to the new stuff as fast as possible
 
Btone said:
but it all ready killing sales of core 2 chips and MB, people who are in the know are all ready waiting, the closer we get to the new stuff the more people will wait, it to Intel advantage to swap over to the new stuff as fast as possible
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The people in the know are the same people willing to spend £500+ for an Extreme chip. I think it will be some time before we see the lower priced chips making an appearance, especially if the Nehalem release mirrors how the Core2 was released. There is plenty of life left in X48 yet.
 
Krisali said:
The people in the know are the same people willing to spend £500+ for an Extreme chip. I think it will be some time before we see the lower priced chips making an appearance, especially if the Nehalem release mirrors how the Core2 was released. There is plenty of life left in X48 yet.
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Yeah. Exactly.

Core 2 Duo was released at 'normal' pricepoints because it was a new architecture but also because Pentium 4 sucked and everyone knew it sucked and enthusiasts were buying AMD instead.

But replacing C2D isn't even necessary by Intel's standards because there is no competition forcing them to do it. Plus, 45nm Penryn started life as £600-£1000 Extreme Edition chips as will Nehalem.
 
Reality|Bites said:
what's with the 133Mhz FSB?

Why do we need DDR3 for it?
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You can run your Memory at 1333mhz or 1600mhz or 2000mhz (same as your Quad Pumped FSB).

My Asus Mobo's calls this 1:1.

On my Mobo's a FSB of 1333mhz and Memory at 667mhz is not 1:1 its Linked+In Sync.

There is no way I could 1:1 my DDR2 to my CPU's stock FSB of 1333mhz on my Mobo.
 
But that's a quad data rate FSB and double data rate RAM

THe motherboards FSB is 333 x 4 and the memory runs at 333 x 2, both frequencies match. even CPUZ reports this as 1:1.

I think you already know this and are just baiting me lol.

So with Naehelm(or whatever) you have your FSB(Hypertransport) running with a frequency of 133Mhz(any mulptipliers involved here?) And the lowest DDR3 running 667Mhz.

I don't get it.
 
You would need take that up with ASUS, and no I'm telling you 100% truth by my Mobo's bios and the 780I's also.

I set 1:1 and it will be a hard lock as the Memory wont be able to boot at 1333mhz.

Possibly the fact we classed 1:1 before as 1333mhz+667mhz was because DDR2 just cant reach that speed (well not many).

I doubt many peeps on a DDR3 Mobo are running say for example and OC FSB to 2000mhz and running Memory at 1000mhz, they will have memory at 2000mhz also.

With Intels new CPU's FSB (like on AMD64's) becomes less important and aint actually the FSB anymore.
 
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That's because the classifications are wrong. it's all marketing with bigger numbers. linked and sync is 1:1

But in that case is would be a 500Mhz FSB x4 and the memory at 1000Mhz x2

What's the point in that?
 
Higher Memory Bandwidth as DDR3 can do that speed will help in certain uses, peeps have shown this in benches.

I do not think Asus have an error, after all NF Mobos can Unlink.

I took you a couple of photo's of Bios but on phone.

Edit moto software +vista64=later lol
 
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I don't think so, I believe only Asus or Asus NForces do it this way and can Unlink etc.

I do not think an Intel based Mobo says 1:1 is 1333FSB and 1333mhz Memory.

There must be a reason Asus do this, Ive seen oeeos in the shops comment section saying they are running 1333mhz FSB with DDR2 Memory at same speed (must be some Memory is all I can say).

I see your point but if that was the real case then DDR3 would not be needed till Intel's Quad Pumped CPU FSB's officially reached 2666mhz, meaning we would officially need DDR3 @ 1333mhz, nevermind needing DDR3 @ 1600mhz, 1800mhz and 2000mhz.

I think simply with DDR3 you have the option to run either way.
 
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makes me wanna walk into PC World and ask around for Nehalem...
remember there is no 'killing' of sales from people waiting, enthusiasts are <1% of the market remember, we are a small-fry-eccentric community, sales of dells etc go on unabated on C2D...
 
Ok I forgot to change my FSB to 1333 from 1600, still wont matter as you can see Memory is 800mhz.


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Now If I try and set my FSB to stock 1333mhz with 1:1, look at Memory.


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Again I do not think Asus or Nvidia have it wrong, its something we do not understand and that's why DDR3 is now here and you can do the above no problems.

I forgot you had a 680I, at least I now know its not an Asus thing.

BTW its lot easier on AMD,if you want the HT (FSB) to be 2000mhz (end speed), you need the Memory to be at 1000mhz (end speed).
 
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Reality|Bites said:
what's with the 133Mhz FSB?

Why do we need DDR3 for it?
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Nehalem will have the memory controller on the CPU die, so things have changed with regard to FSB... the FSB is replaced by the QuickPath architecture. Thus, a 2.93GHz system will have a 133 bus speed with a x22 multiplier.
 
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