Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower

knowledge123 · 8 Jul 2008 at 10:10

6 pages already! :eek:

WTC7 fell because of two reasons:

1) Internal fires which raged out of control for hours.

2) Structural damage due to the other two towers falling.

This is all.

oli collett · 8 Jul 2008 at 10:48

magick said:
You think so? They have no problem killing 1,000,000+ people in Iraq. You think they value people in there own country that much more than in other countries?

It doesn't matter if they get found out because they can just make programs like the BBC one on sunday to paint themselves as being innocent and the masses will genuinely accept it as the gospel truth because it's coming from a state funded corporate media channel.

I watched the program on BBC and thought it was a blatent psy-op and damage limitation exercise. However, the statistics speak for themselves 50% of americans don't believe the official version of 9/11 and, rightly, think they're being lied to. And a smaller but growing amount of that 50% believe 9/11 was a total inside job. With those sort of statistics the establishment will find it difficult to sustain there lies for much longer and now they're just trying to stall the inevitable day when the masses wake up by feeding them heavily biased investigations that favour the official version of events like the rubbish on the BBC the other night.

Wait a minute.

Aren't you the person who believes in what David Icke is babbling on about with Lizard creatures and a mass enlightenment?

The fact that 50% of Americans believe it was an inside job is irrelevant (and probably massively inaccurate). 50% of americans probably think all muslims are terrorists and that Australia neighbours Iraq.

Oh hang on, we're the ones being brainwashed by the BBC, I forgot that one. The idea that "the masses" are brainwashed. Isn't that the line used by pretty much every cult that has ever existed?

Darkwave · 8 Jul 2008 at 11:33

badbob said:
Do YOU want the UK M15/TA/police/goverment/emergency services to sit on there arses all day play PSX

Is this what you think they do? Stop embarrassing yourself, please. It's painful to watch.

oli collett said:
Aren't you the person who believes in what David Icke is babbling on about with Lizard creatures and a mass enlightenment?

Magick here has said he believes in sentient space lizards before, and after watching Zeitgeist it seems most of his crap comes from that one film along with YouTube videos by people who probably should be on some sort of medication (unless that too is just a method of government oppression).

badbob · 8 Jul 2008 at 11:49

s this what you think they do? Stop embarrassing yourself, please

oh god.

yak.h'cir · 8 Jul 2008 at 12:19

badbob said:
oh god.

Talking to imaginary people now?

mr.sly · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:02

I see we've thrown fact out of the window again in this thread.

Keep it coming guys.

MikeTimbers · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:04

This is comedy gold! keep it going...

aslco · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:10

uknowist said:
what do u mean?

I mean, wasn't it first thought that a plane hit it, then conspirasists said it was a missile?

Also when did all these events happen? I read earlier in this thread they were all the same day, but im sure that cant be true.

itsallaboutyou · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:14

Right, well I've just watched this on the iPlayer and I have to say, even though I don't necessarily believe in conspiracy theories, per se - this particular documentary has been filmed in such a way as to make a moderately compelling argument.

And before you flame me, see the word, MODERATELY!

TriedandTested · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:25

AcidHell2 said:
because ATC radar is set up to search for planes..

I wasn't talking about ATC RADAR, but the RADAR located at the military base located near the Pentagon specifically designed to be scanning the airspace in and around the Pentagon and surrounding areas.

"A radar system has a transmitter that emits either radio waves or (more usually these days) microwaves that are reflected by the target and detected by a receiver"

It doesn't need the aircraft to have a transmitter to be able to 'see' it.

mr.sly · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:32

TriedandTested said:
I wasn't talking about ATC RADAR, but the RADAR located at the military base located near the Pentagon specifically designed to be scanning the airspace in and around the Pentagon and surrounding areas.

"A radar system has a transmitter that emits either radio waves or (more usually these days) microwaves that are reflected by the target and detected by a receiver"

It doesn't need the aircraft to have a transmitter to be able to 'see' it.

And did it have planes on stanby-by at that base?

Darkwave · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:33

TriedandTested said:
It doesn't need the aircraft to have a transmitter to be able to 'see' it.

AcidHell2 said:
Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward.

Good luck trying to pick out a needle from a haystack.

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:43

TriedandTested said:
I wasn't talking about ATC RADAR, but the RADAR located at the military base located near the Pentagon specifically designed to be scanning the airspace in and around the Pentagon and surrounding areas.

"A radar system has a transmitter that emits either radio waves or (more usually these days) microwaves that are reflected by the target and detected by a receiver"

It doesn't need the aircraft to have a transmitter to be able to 'see' it.

As I have already quoted 3 time sin the thread. There was only 14 planes on standby in the entire US
Norad radar (miliatry) was only looking outwards of the us. That left only ATC radar focusing on us soil. Please keep up and stop missing critical points. Especially when I have repeatedly posted them as you seem to keep ignoring it.

mmj_uk · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:58

I've not really read the thread so it may have already been posted but there's a German documentary on the subject here:

http://www.videocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/7167

gillywibble · 8 Jul 2008 at 14:00

itsallaboutyou said:
Right, well I've just watched this on the iPlayer and I have to say, even though I don't necessarily believe in conspiracy theories, per se - this particular documentary has been filmed in such a way as to make a moderately compelling argument.

And before you flame me, see the word, MODERATELY!

I was actually less convinced after watching it.

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2008 at 14:02

gillywibble said:
I was actually less convinced after watching it.

He must have only watched the first 5 mins. if you watch all of it. It rubbishes the conspiracy theory and shows how much of an idiot the architect is.

manveruppd · 8 Jul 2008 at 14:40

The way CTs keep posting stuff that blatantly contradicts hard evidence that has been posted before is only explainable if:
a. they have not read the thread (or do not know how to read)
b. they have not understood the explanations given (in which case I don't see how they figured out how to navigate their browsers to these forums, so GET OFF YOUR DAD'S PCs!)
c. they are trolling.

Seriously, the number of people who said "oh why didn't they pick up them rofflecopterz on *** radarz lolz" within the last 100 posts or so, in blatant contradiction to AcidHell2's explanation of why that was, is so bad that it's almost insulting.

I think this thread should be closed, clearly either these people refuse to read the posts of people who disagree with them or are trolling them and trying to wind them up.

itsallaboutyou · 8 Jul 2008 at 14:51

gillywibble said:
I was actually less convinced after watching it.

I really wish people would learn to READ... I didn't suggest that I was compelled by it! I was merely suggesting that the way in which the documentary was produced and edited together - was quite clever.

AcidHell2 said:
He must have only watched the first 5 mins. if you watch all of it. It rubbishes the conspiracy theory and shows how much of an idiot the architect is.

Do you mean 'he must have' by any chance? /grammar police

I actually watched all 59 minutes of the program, including the 15 second BBC 2 advert....

I've actually read a couple of interviews with Richard Gage, and he has no credibility in my eyes, whatsoever. He's something of a sensationalist, which is a personal trait that those advocating conspiracy theories like to play off.

badbob · 8 Jul 2008 at 14:59

Just too many coincendences IMO, watched about a hour of that german video. Goverments have lied in the past using own civilians as targets what makes the current time any different?

Not saying definite consipricy, but I think people dismiss it outright because they cannot believe the goverment in there country would do such a thing. But I guess they would believe the goverment from a country that's seen as enemy will.

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2008 at 15:00

badbob said:
Not saying definite consipricy, but I think people dismiss it outright because they cannot believe the goverment in there country would do such a thing. But I guess they would believe the goverment from a country that's seen as enemy will.

No, we dismiss it until we have some sort of evidence to back it up...