Micro Helicopters advice please ??

Burned_Alive said:
Currently unsure whether to go for the 4#3, 4#3A or 4#3B, swaying towards the 4#3A as my experience with rc cars and alloy/anodised parts tells me that something else will break instead and it will probably be more expensive to replace than the bit the alloy part replaced!

4#3 - £63 Delivered
4#3A - £75 Delivered
4#3B - £90 Delivered

...are the best prices I can find.
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A & B are almost the same, except for the metal part. £75 delivered seems good for the A, you can always buy the upgrades to make it a B if you ever want. They're pretty cheap off that parts site.
 
The 4#3b can be found cheaper if you look

http://www.heli-torque.com/html/walkera_4_3.html

£86 delivered.

The metal upgrades are worth more than a tenner and a worthwhile upgrade to stability and durability of the 4#3. Personally I'd take the 4#3b if you can afford the extra as you'll have a better heli in the long run with fewer upgrades required.
 
Now I am getting worse again :mad:

going to have a look make sure everything is still set correctly paddles etc because this morning it was all over the place couldnt hover anything!

can I just ask should you be able to get off the ground with just the left stick ? throttle then compensate for the torque by pushing right a bit, shouldnt it just go up ? I have to also use the right stick as it starts to tip as well? then all over the place driving nuts now. The funny thing is I can do a perfect figure of 8 on the floor.
 
Have a look at your battery, mine wasn't far back enough and was screwing with the balance.

I can't make mine go up using the left stick, maybe needs a little more tinkering as I usually need to move it forward and a little to the right to get it up without flying backwards!
 
I checked the battery by holding the flybar and it was balanced perfectly I have been trying to adjust the paddles but can I get them spot on, I get them just right tighten the screw and it moves no matter how hard I try.

have you been out in the garden yet with yours?
 
Nah, too affraid of it flying into the pond :D plus theres a little wind which will more than likely blow it off course.

I am getting some decent flights now, still have a little trouble flying it towards me, but i'll get it in the end
 
Invasion said:
I checked the battery by holding the flybar and it was balanced perfectly I have been trying to adjust the paddles but can I get them spot on, I get them just right tighten the screw and it moves no matter how hard I try.

have you been out in the garden yet with yours?
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once flybar paddles are roughly level... power up heli and then recheck while powered. If still not quite level I just give a little twist. (don't need to loosen anything, maybe not good for flybar as your twisting it, but seems to work and you can get them dead level in like 2-3secs)

double check the locking collar on main rotor axle hasn't slipped also..

way I take off is start to raise the throttle then as heli gets light and it starts to move I compensate for that with cyclic while increasing power further, that way you don't get much sideways motion while leaving ground... you can do that though in one quick motion once you get used to it and the sooner your up off the ground the better. You can't take off using left stick only...

biggest thing I worried about when learning was always the question 'what if heli does not fly and I just don't know it' ...without someone to flight check it your in the hands of the gods and could be bashing your head against wall and it has major fault. might be a good idea to invest 30 quid or so in that cheap clearview sim and usb controller, plus it's a lot of fun on sim as you can mess about with RC planes also.
 
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just found out my 4#3b is in country and arriving soon, when I get it will totally strip it down ready for stuff I just ordered...

MIA Carbon Frame Flex LG - Walkera 4#3 Upgrade Kit
MIA Metal Flybars for Walkera 4#3
MIA 7 piece Miniature Tool Kit
MIA Flybar Stability Kit - Preset Deluxe
MIA Shaft Collar - Swashplate Standoff kit
The Phantom Carbon-Pattern MIA Canopy and Decal Kit
MIA Moto-Cool-er (Custom Design Heat Sink)

Gonna be pimp heli :), almost double the cost of a normal one but should be the dogs danglies. Will use the buzz fly just for training...
 
Direct from MIA

http://www.micro-flight.com/Walkera%204-3.htm

Shipping abit expensive by Air but US dollar so weak it's not so bad... I know it's all prolly not worth the money, but I wanna try and make the best sub micro heli I can. Problem is once the CP version comes out it'll all start again :(

Such a fun hobby though, just love it :)
 
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Burned_Alive said:
Sorry, what's CP?
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Collective Pitch, 7ch.


I lost a part from my tail rotor, the little cylinder bearing that stops the large cog going all the way in. I've also lost and probably broke the part that stops the tail rotor coming off from the front, I believe it's tiny rotor from pictures.

Would this be included in the:

Tail knighthead set
Tail Gear
Bearing Set
Tail Rotor Shaft / CX Lower Bearings

going to order from
http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Buzz-Fly-Spares/c-33-119/

as i'd like them by Tuesday, but if I can find the right kit i'm going to order a lot of parts from the cheaper website.
 
Nice, might use it.

Just need to figure out which part I need to get that little bearing, i'd assume it would be in the 'bearing set'
 
Burned_Alive said:
You would think so, there's exploded diagrams on the Walkera website which might help.
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Checked the site, they don't seem to have one for the 4#3B or A, checked the standard 4#3 but the item I need isn't labled, i'm pretty sure it's just a bearing.

I'll order from that site you mentioned and see, need a couple of other bits anyway.
 
Flukester said:
once flybar paddles are roughly level... power up heli and then recheck while powered. If still not quite level I just give a little twist. (don't need to loosen anything, maybe not good for flybar as your twisting it, but seems to work and you can get them dead level in like 2-3secs)

double check the locking collar on main rotor axle hasn't slipped also..

way I take off is start to raise the throttle then as heli gets light and it starts to move I compensate for that with cyclic while increasing power further, that way you don't get much sideways motion while leaving ground... you can do that though in one quick motion once you get used to it and the sooner your up off the ground the better. You can't take off using left stick only...

biggest thing I worried about when learning was always the question 'what if heli does not fly and I just don't know it' ...without someone to flight check it your in the hands of the gods and could be bashing your head against wall and it has major fault. might be a good idea to invest 30 quid or so in that cheap clearview sim and usb controller, plus it's a lot of fun on sim as you can mess about with RC planes also.
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I really think I might have a problem with mine...as I just cant get close to a hover now, starting to think this thing is never going to fly correctly.

maybe I should get a sim would this confirm if mine is faulty if I could fly the sim??
 
the sim is pretty accurate... and if you can hover tail in on the spot for a few mins on sim then you can do the real thing no problem

you could maybe take some different photos of your heli, like the head etc and post them up, maybe something is obviously wrong.. but I guess by same token the whole hovering thing seems impossible to begin with. Trying to teach my m8 and he spent the whole day just crashing constantly, yet I knew the heli was fine everytime I tested it.

if everything you do with the controls seems to have effect on heli it should be flyable, even if terribly out of balance. one thing I noticed on these sub micros is things can be really out of balance and the heli is hardly effected as it's so small and light.... so if everything is mechanically in the right place it should fly
 
Flukester said:
the sim is pretty accurate... and if you can hover tail in on the spot for a few mins on sim then you can do the real thing no problem

you could maybe take some different photos of your heli, like the head etc and post them up, maybe something is obviously wrong.. but I guess by same token the whole hovering thing seems impossible to begin with. Trying to teach my m8 and he spent the whole day just crashing constantly, yet I knew the heli was fine everytime I tested it.

if everything you do with the controls seems to have effect on heli it should be flyable, even if terribly out of balance. one thing I noticed on these sub micros is things can be really out of balance and the heli is hardly effected as it's so small and light.... so if everything is mechanically in the right place it should fly
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I will take some photos tomorrow and then you can tell me if you can see anything wrong although from what you said I think it must just be me.

I will give it another week and see if things progress. Can I just check the cyclic is the left stick also ?

I took it outside today agin and did a little better but it just tended to go backwards in to me as soon as it went up.

thanks for the help appreciated ;)
 
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