not really, hes awesome when hes on form tbh. easily the best in the world.
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not really, hes awesome when hes on form tbh. easily the best in the world.
becaue surely thats the only way they are going to get in on the hunt by agreeing to pay more (like clubs did with Ramsey) - as they wherent 1st in the queue , also whats the point in the selling club even speaking to the 2nd in line if they arent willing to pay more
but 2nd and 3rd club inline (and so on) have to interest the selling club in their bid, and the only way of doing that is offering more cash otherwise the selling club might as well say its too much hassle dealing with more than one other club and reject the other two or however many other interested parties there are
(dont get me wrong, of course from the players pov as much choice is beneficial, but few clubs really consider this unless there is someithing in it for them)
Printed press was saying this morning Milan are offering £5/year in wages with at same 100k more a week offered by City - by my basic maths thats around £10m a year!!! He will lose a HUGE amount of respect from the footballing world if he choses City - surely there is only one reason why he would end up there (rumour also that AC head negotiator is sick and tired of his Agent/Brother)
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Interesting times, Carson looks off for 4mn or so. So when do we get a new winger? Glad we are not paying 17mn for Bentley though as any of the continental wingers are better and cheaper eg Riera or Jaoquin etc.
Aguero was very nearly a liverpool player before for 10mn. Damn shame we didnt get him then. He could play off Torres or on either flank imho.
Aguero was very nearly a liverpool player before for 10mn. Damn shame we didnt get him then. He could play off Torres or on either flank imho.
No. If a player has a minimum release fee clause in his contract then any club that bids that amount will have their bid accepted, even if another club has already had a bid accepted. The selling club cannot reject the bid!
There is no reason why a club would pay more than the figure in the clause.
Would have liked a bit more for Carson but can't complain considering he only cost £600-700k. With all the money we've received in loan fees over the last few years we've made around £8m from him.
Hopefully we'll be after a winger and im also glad we're not after Bentley but im not too keen on Riera and certainly not Joaquin. Aguero's extremely unlikely to join but we can live in hope i suppose.
How does Frank keep getting it wrong on such basic things? 
The whole point of a minimum release clause is that it's either required, as is the case in Spain, or the player would only sign the contract with it present. Minimum release fees are not there to protect the club primarily.
The whole point of a minimum release clause is that it's either required, as is the case in Spain, or the player would only sign the contract with it present. Minimum release fees are not there to protect the club primarily.
I wouldn't have Riera given and I think Joaquin is a very average player too.
If a player has a £12m minimum fee, it means any offer over £12m MUST be accepted.
I do believe [ASSE]Hinchy and wedgie are correct, I'm pretty sure that it has to be a lump sum. The club cannot offer £1.2m over 12 months and still have the offer automatically accepted.
For example...
If Messi had a £30m Minimum Release Fee.
Liverpool offer £30m
Inter offer £30m
Man Utd offer £35m
Arsenal offer £50m
All offers MUST be accepted, as they have all reached or gone over the Minimum Release Fee in Messi's contract.
The club then has absolutely no say in which offers they accepted, who they let the player go to, or which offers they refuse.
Messi would then either choose to stay at his club, or if he agrees to a contract at one of the four offers... he is free to go, the club are now out of the loop.
If for example...
Messi had a £30m Minimum Release Fee.
Liverpool offer £30m
Inter offer £35m
Man Utd offer £29,999,999.99m
Arsenal offer £20m
Barcalona could refuse the offers from Man Utd and Arsenal, but would have to accept both Liverpool and Inter's offers.
But realistically nobody would ever offer a single penny over the Minimum Release Fee, as that Fee guarantees that your offer will be accepted and it's down to the player to decide then.
The whole idea of these clauses is to give players some sort of control over transfers, the only clubs that can realistically afford to pay these fees (as they're normally very large) are normally huge clubs and it means that the player will 9 times out of 10 accept the contract.
They're not designed to protect the clubs, it's to allow the players to move more freely - otherwise we'd never see some players move between clubs.
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I'm a Stokey and I'm concerned we are signing Carson. We have bigger needs than a goalie if we are going to stay up. Carson is over rated and not much better than what we already have.
Ignoring that you're wrong anyway, why wouldn't the selling club accept an equal offer from a second team? They lose absolutely nothing on it (as the player will go for the same amount whoever he picks), and they increase the possibility of the player leaving, as the two clubs have to now compete for the player's signature, pushing his contract up, and making it more tempting for him.
I thought all the parties involved in trying to sign Ramsey offered around the £5m mark.
Do you even think these things through before you post?
I wouldn't call it a stroke of luck, we we're consistent all season, always near the top, lost few games compared to those around us (I think it was lowest losses in the league, but not for sure). I'd say Hull were lucky to go up, as they only did it off a run at the back end of the season, but certainly not us.
As for Carson, if we do manage to sign him i agree that it would be a fantastic signing. We're in need of a keeper with only Simo the recognised keeper in the first team squad.
As for not signing players, its a slight worry, however I'd much rather the club work on signings such as this that are going to make a big impact on the club,l as opposed to signing anyone they can get their hands on (a'la hull)
Giovanni - Started two games for man city, scored deflected goal against man utd, not much else.
Mendy - released by a club who struggled to stay in the French Ligue 1ast season
Fagan - Struggled in worst team in Premiership history, eventually being loaned out
Traore - 'the French Bramble'
Mendy - released by a club who struggled to stay in the French Ligue 1ast season
Fagan - Struggled in worst team in Premiership history, eventually being loaned out
Traore - 'the French Bramble'
That's what I was going to mention. Even without a release clause, once the first offer has been accepted it's quite likely any additional equal offer would also be accepted. Obvious cases where it may not be accepted would be if it was a rival or disliked club, or they knew the buying club was especially wealthy.
Bidding wars generally occur where no fee has already been openly agreed upon, there's just no logic in making your opening offer a penny more than a price you know has already been accepted.
Fagan is a fair point, although he was originally loaned (and most of the signing agreed upon) when Hull were still a Championship side, and didn't look like going up. Traore hasn't been anything more than speculation so far. Geovanni and Mendy both look like players with decent ability. Yeah they're not great, but who at that level is going to be great?
The other player of the three I was referring to was Boateng anyway, who's apparently just a medical away from being a City player. Yes he's old, but again, still a decent Premiership player.
The other player of the three I was referring to was Boateng anyway, who's apparently just a medical away from being a City player. Yes he's old, but again, still a decent Premiership player.
I think Boateng will be a good signing for you. I aren't totally sure about Gio or Mendy, but i suppose like you say, clubs in our position aren't going to be signing great players and maybe these are the chances that we need to take.
What's going on with your striking options next season? I envisioned you getting Campbell but haven't heard anything of it since the end of the season?
What's going on with your striking options next season? I envisioned you getting Campbell but haven't heard anything of it since the end of the season?