All New Summer 2008 Transfer Merry Go Round/Rumour Mill

from the BBC:

Inter Milan boss Jose Mourinho has given up hope of signing Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard. (The Sun)

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich invited AC Milan representatives on to his personal yacht - but the Italian club still refused to sell Brazilian playmaker Kaka. (The Sun)

Real Madrid will not sell Robinho to Chelsea unless they can persuade Cristiano Ronaldo to sign from Manchester United. (Daily Star)

Blackburn winger David Bentley has pulled out of the club's training camp in Germany as his frustration grows over the slow progress of his transfer to Tottenham. (Daily Mirror)

Blackburn are willing to sell Bentley - but only if an offer of more than £18m comes in. (The Times)

Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor refused to commit to the club during talks with manager Arsene Wenger on Monday. (The Guardian)

Aston Villa are after 6ft 7in Valencia striker Nicola Zigic. He is available for £5m. (The Sun)

Villa will sign Blackburn keeper Brad Friedel for £2m as a short-term solution before snapping up Wayne Hennessey from Wolves in a year's time. (Daily Mirror)

Everton remain keen on £16m Joao Moutinho despite the midfielder's club Sporting Lisbon insisting he is not for sale. (Daily Mirror)

Tottenham boss Juande Ramos has been told to increase his £16m offer for Zenit St Petersburg forward Andrei Arshavin. Zenit want £21.5m. (The Sun)

Manchester City are poised to splash out £6m on Espanyol midfielder Pablo Zabaleta. (The Sun)

Defender Lucas Neill says he is not leaving West Ham, despite being linked with a move to Galatasaray. (The Sun)

Hull have agreed a £300,000 fee for Borussia Dortmund midfielder Delron Buckley. (The Sun)

Hull are close to signing Wigan striker Marlon King for £3m and are trying to persuade Bolton to reduce their £3m asking price for Abdoulaye Meite. (Daily Mirror)

Bolton have had a £320,000 offer for Levante winger Mustapha Riga turned down. (Daily Mail)

Eidur Gudjohnsen says he is staying at Barcelona after turning down a £5m move to West Ham. (Daily Mail)

Fulham have finally agreed a deal for Swedish defender Fredrik Stoor. He will join from Rosenborg for £2m. (Daily Express)

Kevin Keegan is at loggerheads with the Newcastle board, who are ready to sell James Milner for more than £10m. (Daily Star)

Liverpool are thought to be ready to make a fresh bid for former England Under-21 player Milner. (The Times)

Newcastle boss Keegan is confident Charles N'Zogbia will stay at St James' Park. (Daily Mirror)

Keegan is thought to be pondering a bid for former Arsenal winger Jose Antonio Reyes, who has fallen out of favour at Atletico Madrid. (The Guardian)

Birmingham boss Alex McLeish has put his £575,000 move for Stephen Pearson on hold because the Derby midfielder will not be fit for a month. (Daily Mirror)

Sheffield United will complete the £2m signing of Watford striker Darius Henderson on Tuesday. (Daily Star)

Carlisle have slapped a £1.14m price tag on striker Joe Garner, with Nottingham Forest ready to swoop. (Daily Star)

Blackpool are close to a £500,000 deal for Real Sociedad's Welsh midfielder David Vaughan. (Daily Star)

Teemu Tainio's arrival at Sunderland from Spurs could pave the way for Dean Whitehead to join Stoke. (The Guardian)

Black Cats boss Roy Keane remains keen on Spurs striker Darren Bent. (The Guardian)

Celtic are close to wrapping up a deal for Romania defender Gabriel Tamas of Auxerre. (Daily Record)

Dundee United have turned down Reading's £500,000 bid for striker Noel Hunt. (Daily Record)
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FrankJH said:
They are probably worth £20 each (oopsss I meant £20m gov :D)

They both have 4-5 years at the top and should be able to score 20 -25 goals a season for a decent side

Considering the £17-18m for Bent, those two are a steal at £2 or £3m more

Bentley and Barry I would agree with though £10m -£15m max I would suggest (even allowing for additional price because they are Brits)
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Bent isnt really the yard stick by which prices should be measured, just because Spurs were stupid enough to ***** up 18 million pound for a 8 million pound player doesnt automatically mean that all of a sudden everybody else is worth twice as much as they should be.

It means Spurs are thick as pig **** and desperate.

Berbatov and Keane are only worth £20 million pounds in spurs dreams, 10 or 12 a piece mabye.
 
atpbx said:
Bent isnt really the yard stick by which prices should be measured, just because Spurs were stupid enough to ***** up 18 million pound for a 8 million pound player doesnt automatically mean that all of a sudden everybody else is worth twice as much as they should be.

It means Spurs are thick as pig **** and desperate.

Berbatov and Keane are only worth £20 million pounds in spurs dreams, 10 or 12 a piece mabye.
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cut it out

If Berbatov and Keane are only worth £20m each in Spurs dreams then why are Liverpool prepared to pay £20m for Keane and Utd far more than that for Berbatov?

At the end of the day a player is only worth what a club is willing to pay for him. SWP wasnt worth what Chelsea paid for him, Shevchenko looking back wasnt worth what they paid, but at the time, given his form for Milan people were thinking it was. Many Utd fans were arguing that SAF over paid for Carrick when they signed him, but at the same time many Spurs fans were angry at how cheaply he was sold. Now look at him, made those Utd fans eat their hats and proved the Spurs fans correct.

At the current time Bent was not worth the £16m that Spurs paid for him (yes, more inaccuracies in your post) but as the majority of the Bent fee was dependant on his and Spurs' performance the cost hasnt worked out too expensive yet, as 4 goals and an 11 place arent going to demand much of a repayment.

In addition to the players ability you need to look at the other stats, proven in the Premiership, yes they both are, both have scored over 20 goals a season for the 2 seasons Berbatov has been at WHL and Keane has over 200 career goals. Keane adds a lot more than just goals to a team, and his workrate is second to none, which is why Rafa wants him. Berba on his day can be exceptional, and SAF recognises this.

As for Spurs being pig **** and desperate I dont think thats the case. Jol wanted Bent because he saw him as Berbatov's replacement as he was expected to leave last summer, he didnt and therefore Bent had to be used as a sub, which if you read his many interviews he was well aware of that role before he joined.
 
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Twinblade said:
If Berbatov and Keane are only worth £20m each in Spurs dreams then why are Liverpool prepared to pay £20m for Keane and Utd far more than that for Berbatov?

At the end of the day a player is only worth what a club is willing to pay for him. SWP wasnt worth what Chelsea paid for him, Shevchenko looking back wasnt worth what they paid, but at the time, given his form for Milan people
were thinking it was. Many Utd fans were arguing that SAF over paid for Carrick when they signed him, but at the same time many Spurs fans were angry at how cheaply he was sold. Now look at him, made those Utd fans eat their hats and proved the Spurs fans correct.

At the current time Bent was not worth the £16m that Spurs paid for him (yes, more inaccuracies in your post) but as the majority of the Bent fee was dependant on his and Spurs' performance the cost hasnt worked out too expensive yet, as 4 goals and an 11 place arent going to demand much of a repayment.

In addition to the players ability you need to look at the other stats, proven in the Premiership, yes they both are, both have scored over 20 goals a season for the 2 seasons Berbatov has been at WHL and Keane has over 200 career goals. Keane adds a lot more than just goals to a team, and his workrate is second to none, which is why Rafa wants him. Berba on his day can be exceptional, and SAF recognises this.

As for Spurs being pig **** and desperate I dont think thats the case. Jol wanted Bent because he saw him as Berbatov's replacement as he was expected to leave last summer, he didnt and therefore Bent had to be used as a sub, which if you read his many interviews he was well aware of that role before he joined.
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and you too

It doesnt change the fact, you paid too much and were desperate.
I dont know who was supposed to be signing Berbatov last year, but it wasnt United

As for Shevchenko everybody thought he was overpriced, not by a little, but about £25 million as his ankles are shot to pieces and were at the time they bought him, he isnt lazy, he cannot physically play the game he used to, Carrick was regarded and is regarded as having one of the best passing games in the league, who was saying it was too much?

Both players ARE massively overpriced, no matter how much you jump up and down and scream otherwise, as for the inaccuracies in post, its a throwaway post quoting a figure frank mentioned, but just for the record, all sources i can find say £15 million pounds of Bents fee was payable over three years not dependent on performances, but the basic cost, £1.5 million is payable in performance related bonuses to charlton.

£16.5 million - £1.5 million = £15 million.
£1.5 million as a percentage of £16.5 million = is a little under 9% of the transfer fee.
Definition of majority- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority
 
atpbx said:
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It doesnt change the fact, you paid too much and were desperate.
I dont know who was supposed to be signing Berbatov last year, but it wasnt United

As for Shevchenko everybody thought he was overpriced, not by a little, but about £25 million as his ankles are shot to pieces and were at the time they bought him, he isnt lazy, he cannot physically play the game he used to, Carrick was regarded and is regarded as having one of the best passing games in the league, who was saying it was too much?

Both players ARE massively overpriced, no matter how much you jump up and down and scream otherwise, as for the inaccuracies in post, its a throwaway post quoting a figure frank mentioned, but just for the record, all sources i can find say £15 million pounds of Bents fee was payable over three years not dependent on performances, but the basic cost, £1.5 million is payable in performance related bonuses to charlton.

£16.5 million - £1.5 million = £15 million.
£1.5 million as a percentage of £16.5 million = is a little under 9% of the transfer fee.
Definition of majority- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority
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The fact that I am a Spurs fan makes no difference to the way my response was made, and I am not bitter in any sense. As for the failings of my club, yes there are many, but the one in which you mentioned is not one of them. Had you gone on about how we were tipped to challenge for 4th and only finishing 11th then you would have a point about failings as a club.

Again, Spurs were not desperate when they signed Bent. He was being courted for a long time. We signed him believing Berbatov was on his way, and I do not recall suggesting it was Utd that were going to buy him, although you certainly were after him last year.

At the time we still had Defoe so we were hardly desperate to sign a striker, it was an addition the then manage (Martin Jol) considered a good option, however, the new manager has decided otherwise, along with the majority of the other signings MJ made. However, as a Utd fan you wouldn't know about poor signings.

On the Carrick arguement, there are plenty of people who dont rate him, and if you ask Nokkon I am sure he can advise you of the number of times he has defended Carricks ability as a player.

As for maintaining Berbatov and Keane are over priced, thats your opinion but feel your probably in a minority.
 
Twinblade said:
At the end of the day a player is only worth what a club is willing to pay for him.
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That's all that really matters. The money being mentioned for Bentley and Barry at the moment surely make the figures for Keane and Berbatov plausible.

Blackburn say Bentley is worth £18m. If nobody wants to pay it does that mean he's still worth £18m or not?
 
JPMslither said:
That's all that really matters. The money being mentioned for Bentley and Barry at the moment surely make the figures for Keane and Berbatov plausible.

Blackburn say Bentley is worth £18m. If nobody wants to pay it does that mean he's still worth £18m or not?
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The problem with clubs at the minute, is..... how can i put it, desperation.

David Bentley, good player as he is, isnt £18 million pounds better than any of the players that will have to be shipped out for him to be brought in.
It wont cost £18 million pounds for him to be replaced at Blackburn.
But because he is a fresh faced, reasonable english player who sometimes gets 20 minutes for the england side, he's all of a sudden worth Rooney/Torres/Van Nistelrooy money.
Simple facts of the matter are, none of the players being mentioned here as good as any of those three, but are being touted around the same price.
Its lack of perspective, its lack of forward planning and simple bad management.
 
Spurs have handed their dossier of information to the PL:

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