Good Deal From Friend?

Energize said:
Crap brand, smaller and more expensive just for 1 years warranty when the chances are it won't break anyway. It's almost never worth spending money on warranties when prices for tv's are dropping so fast.
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Not a crap brand, just woefully average, better than the budget crap you see in Argos and such.

I'm fully of the 'spend more on something decent' train of thought, I spent £140 more than my original budget to secure a decent 32" with a 5 year warranty, but £200 gives you little option.

As for warranty, it's luck of the draw, but I'd rather be covered, especially given that the tv in question is 3 years old, if it was going to start going wrong, it would do soon. ;)
 
SKaRT said:
I don't know if you are still living 30 years ago when electrical goods made 30-50% margin on everything but in todays electrical shops you won't get anything at all. Price matching is about as much as you can hope for, and if the price match is for a large amount I can almost guarantee that the item you wanted will conveniently not be in stock. I've personally flat out lied to customers and told them items that are very much in stock are not available simply to avoid having to price match if it's for a large amount. A lot of TVs now make 10%~ margin. If you try and haggle a salesperson into dropping the price on one then one of two things will happen. They are either going to just say no, and you'll get nothing, or they will be stupid, do the discount and lose their job. If you can find a sales person stupid enough to do that then you are only doing the company a favour because they most likely wanted to get rid of them anyway.
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I couldn't care less who I'm doing a favour for. I do this not just on electricals but on anything of decent value. I don't know what you're talking about there becasue almost every shop around here will give me discount with negotiation. I even have one person in one store that has been doing it for years, and still does it whenever I go in the shop.
 
SKaRT said:
The free DVD player/delivery things are tools given to the sales staff to actually clinch the sales. It doesn't cost them anything because those products are margin protected and kickbacks come from manufacturers to allow them to supply such products for free with the TVs.
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I'm sure you're right. However, I don't really care about where something came from, whether it was given as a freebie to the retailer, etc... as I end up with something that I wouldn't have got if I hadn't haggled. Whether the retailer has incurred any financial loss is of absolutely no regard to me - it's all about whether I get something for free*, not whether the retailer has "lost out".



* of course it's not really free as I've had to buy something to qualify for getting the other benefit, but if I would have spent the same amount of money in any case then I have received it at no extra cost, ergo it was free for me.
 
lowrider007 said:
I always usually do mates rates on everything I sell to friends, If I'm flush at the time I'll try and find someone that really needs the item I no longer need and they can have it for next to nothing, If I was selling that TV to a mate I'd probably sell it for £150, I doubt he'd be able to sell that TV locally for £200+ and selling it online would incur fee's and an expensive delivery charge, by all means take the TV for £200, it's not a bad price but I will say one thing, @ £200 your the one doing him the favour, not the other way around.
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Heh, it does look like I should be getting it for that, but after having him drop to £200 I am not sure how to suggest £150 without seeming rude... He would be better just selling it elsewhere no doubt.
 
Steve2000 said:
I couldn't care less who I'm doing a favour for. I do this not just on electricals but on anything of decent value. I don't know what you're talking about there becasue almost every shop around here will give me discount with negotiation. I even have one person in one store that has been doing it for years, and still does it whenever I go in the shop.
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So are you talking about electrical goods here or not? I don't have any experience with retail other than electrical so I really don't know what kind of margins are available on other products. I can personally say that electrical goods prices are no longer negotiable. Having a personal relationship with a specific salesperson is a completely different situation. You just can't walk into an electrical shop now and expect to get things at a lower price than listed as a normal customer.
GarethDW said:
I'm sure you're right. However, I don't really care about where something came from, whether it was given as a freebie to the retailer, etc... as I end up with something that I wouldn't have got if I hadn't haggled. Whether the retailer has incurred any financial loss is of absolutely no regard to me - it's all about whether I get something for free*, not whether the retailer has "lost out".



* of course it's not really free as I've had to buy something to qualify for getting the other benefit, but if I would have spent the same amount of money in any case then I have received it at no extra cost, ergo it was free for me.
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Yeah I agree with what you're saying, obviously I look at it from the retail standpoint and it really is a personal decision for the salesperson on that kind of thing. I can give out freebies that are classed as an offer simply based on whether I like the person I'm serving or not. If they are a total tool to me they'll get nothing, if they're nice enough I'll check to see if anything is available on a half price offer etc. If they have a nice rack and a short skirt they'll be getting whatever the hell I can find to throw in :p
 
SKaRT said:
It's no different to people expecting to get something cheaper for buying it off display.
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A product that has been on display has been used by the shop lowering it's lifespan and value, a discount is expected on such an item and every online shop gives discounts on ex display items. Any shop that doesn't give a discount on display models is pretty crap.

I do feel sorry for the salesmen at these shops though sometimes, having wasted hours of their time demoing models only to buy off the internet because they won't price match. :p
 
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I have never managed to get discounts off electrical items, I have managed to get a few years extra warranty though on high valued items, as a ex furniture salesman I know there are huge mark-ups on furniture and you always should haggle :p I got it all the time.
 
Well just been to a few shops, the best deal I can get is either £350 LG/Samsung 26" or £250 22" Humax, so all in all I can't get a TV of the same standard for anywhere near my price range...
 
Edit/ Well looks like the offer has finished! :(



If you think its a good price why dont you just buy it?
 
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What offer?

Also, it seems an ok price, but as people say no Warrenty, and old hat LCD Technology, and with it being 3 years old I do not want to waste £200 on it to find it dies in a few months etc.... But at the same time I know I wont get a better TV for my money, just a cheap, smaller no brand one...
 
Asked, he said no to £180, but that if I buy it for £200 and it does go wrong he will give me the £20 towards repair...
 
You will be looking at the cost of the TV itself if anything goes wrong with it :D LCDs and TV in general are crazily expensive to fix so £20 towards repair is nothing really.

I would personally save the little bit extra and buy a brand new unit or one that’s in warranty etc, £300+ can get some nice new sets.



At the end of the day its your choice if you want it just buy it :D
 
I'd say its pretty good, you dont really want any 20-22" screens because they tend to have the 16:10 resolutions which aren't good with ps3,360 (though an update is coming out for the 360 for 16:10) and hd discs etc
 
I think I will be saying no, based on the repair cost I will just wait till I have a bit more money, I can run the 360 on my monitor, if I can figure out how to connect to Audio In connection!

On that note, cya all on the flip side I am about to format my PC!
 
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