Travelling abroad in the EU without a passport.

waxapple · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:53

Biohazard said:
There is very little you can do in all honesty.

Heh, I meant other than go abroad

ninja edit

Biohazard · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:53

waxapple said:
Heh, I meant other than go abroad

Ah. Well I'd dump him and run off for sti and sunburn.

Tefal · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:54

I thought in the eu all you needed now was photo id not a passport?

Biohazard · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:54

Tefal said:
I thought in the eu all you needed now was photo id not a passport?

Joining the convo a bit late are we not?

No, that is not the case for UK citizens. (Internationally anyway, not domestically)

Boycie · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:55

Fothsn said:
Well that’s a first! The UK are very very keen to check your passports! More so than other countries.

Online check-in skipped out the check in desks, at "passport control" they wanted to see my boarding card only, then at the gate it was boarding cards again.

waxapple · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:56

Tefal said:
I thought in the eu all you needed now was photo id not a passport?

Careful, I asked that and got called a retard

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:56

Psyk said:
It's not as stupid as everyone seems to think it is. You can freely travel between most EU countries without a passport. However the UK and Ireland are exempt from this, so you will need a passport unless you happen to be going to Ireland (The UK and Ireland already have a free travel agreement).

Nah, I knew this... having lived and worked in various countries on the continent, I know that border controls are a thing of the past. However, as you pointed out, this doesn't apply for travel to and from the UK & Ireland.

I've lost count of the number of times I've travelled outside the UK, and on each occasion - without fail - I've had to present my passport when leaving or entering the UK.

waxapple · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:57

GarethDW said:
Nah, I knew this... having lived and worked in various countries on the continent, I know that border controls are a thing of the past. However, as you pointed out, this doesn't apply for travel to and from the UK & Ireland.

I've lost count of the number of times I've travelled outside the UK, and on each occasion - without fail - I've had to present my passport when leaving or entering the UK.

Why didn't your initial anwser contain some useful content then?

GD, sheesh

dowie · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:59

dntbloodshot said:
It's feasible, but only for citizens of countries that have a national ID scheme, you can travel with your passport or your national ID (within the EU.)

IIRC - within certain EU countries yes but the UK and Ireland opted out of the agreement - so to leave/enter the UK you still need a passport

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 22:59

waxapple said:
Why didn't your initial anwser contain some useful content then?

GD, sheesh

More fun to diss people than actually help them

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:01

dowie said:
IIRC - within certain EU countries yes but the UK and Ireland opted out of the agreement - so to leave/enter the UK you still need a passport

If you're a British national. However, Johnny Foreigners can enter and leave the UK & Ireland with just ID cards. That's what my French missus and our nipper can do... although they've also got passports as well as ID cards, and tend to just use these.

Burnsy2023 · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:02

GarethDW said:
If you're a British national. However, Johnny Foreigners can enter and leave the UK & Ireland with just ID cards. That's what my French missus and our nipper can do... although they've also got passports as well as ID cards, and tend to just use these.

Awesome. What about dual nationals?

Burnsy

Killerkebab · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:05

GarethDW said:
If you're a British national. However, Johnny Foreigners can enter and leave the UK & Ireland with just ID cards. That's what my French missus and our nipper can do... although they've also got passports as well as ID cards, and tend to just use these.

Your child has a Carte d'Identité? Dual nationality?

Burnsy2023 said:
Awesome. What about dual nationals?

Burnsy

I was going to say, if his child has a French ID card that makes him French at the very least, and assuming GarethDW is English, his child is probably a dual national

Burnsy2023 · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:09

More to the point I'm a British/German national and I wanted to know it affected me!

Burnsy

Killerkebab · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:11

Burnsy2023 said:
More to the point I'm a British/German national and I wanted to know it affected me!

Burnsy

Well if the conditions are anything like French ID cards, possessing a German national ID card makes you officially German and so you can travel with it, regardless of any other nationalities you have

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:13

Nah, he's 100% a Frenchie because he was born in France and we weren't married at the time. The British Consulate informed me that, despite me being 100% Brit and 100% his father, he's considered to be 0% British. However, as we now live in the UK, he is entitled to apply for British citizenship, and it would be automatically granted due to my nationality. Not got round to it yet... no real rush.

Both of them get French ID cards and passports issued by the French consulate in London, but we get it all approved by a very friendly representative who lives in Cardiff so we don't have to queue up for hours and waste time going through all their red tape.

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:13

Burnsy2023 said:
More to the point I'm a British/German national and I wanted to know it affected me!

Burnsy

If you've got a valid German ID card then, I don't see why not. Give the German consulate in London a call and ask them.

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:14

Killerkebab said:
Your child has a Carte d'Identité? Dual nationality?
I was going to say, if his child has a French ID card that makes him French at the very least, and assuming GarethDW is English, his child is probably a dual national

Exactamundo... he's French and has a carte d'identité. All the Frenchies would give me is a carte de sejour

edit: woohoo - triple posting for the win

Burnsy2023 · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:16

GarethDW said:
Nah, he's 100% a Frenchie because he was born in France and we weren't married at the time. The British Consulate informed me that, despite me being 100% Brit and 100% his father, he's considered to be 0% British. However, as we now live in the UK, he is entitled to apply for British citizenship, and it would be automatically granted due to my nationality. Not got round to it yet... no real rush.

I don't think this is the case, you may want to look deeper into that.

Anyway, I need to visit the Embassy in London soon for a passport renewal anyway. They're all biometric so I need my fingerprints taken etc.

Burnsy

GarethDW · 28 Jul 2008 at 23:25

Burnsy2023 said:
I don't think this is the case, you may want to look deeper into that.

Anyway, I need to visit the Embassy in London soon for a passport renewal anyway. They're all biometric so I need my fingerprints taken etc.

Burnsy

Aye, things might have changed since... it was over 11 years ago that we looked into it. I spent ages with the Consulate before he was born, getting them to confirm all this stuff.

Apologies, OP... didn't mean to drag your thread so much off topic.