No fat chicks!

Pestilence said:
So why is there a difference between that and "No Gays", "No Blacks" etc? At the end of the day, as you say, it's their property and they can have who they like in.

So why then attempt to state that "No Gays" is different? Is it because you personally find Gay people and their behaviour acceptable - so they're not an easy target of choice for you?

Just as you probably find fat people in clubs offensive, many people find Gays in clubs offensive - but somehow to you that's different? Spare me.
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No be cause gays and blacks do not really have a choice, nor do a very very tiny proportion of fat people, who have certain medical conditions. But most are only the size they are because of the amount of crap they shovel down.


Gay / black / very small minority of fat people = not a choice and protected by law

Majority of fat people = choice not protected by law.


Would you be ok with a "No chav" rule? or is hat ok cause they offend you ;)
 
What happens if an obese person falls over in a crowded room and possibly crush somebody, causing potentially serious injury? Would people tolerate the body odour of obese people, who sweat earlier and often? Would the unattactive sight of obese people dancing turn people away? Would obese people use the facilities as they were intended for, instead of just sitting around?

You might think it's a bit far-fetched, but these are serious questions that merit some thought. Personally I think it's off-putting to see fatties dance. You ever notice there's a large space between fat people and healthy people on the dancefloor? Nobody wants to dance with fatty, because it's aesthetically offputting to the extreme, because they stink and because they take up room.
 
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To be honest I disagree with all the <women of disproportionate size> in that article. Firstly, it should be every club/shop owners choice who he allows to enter/buy as long as it’s not based on religious/sexist/racist grounds. 'Fattist' is not the same as religion, sex and race as none of these are negative things whereas all medical research shows being fat is a negative thing. For clubs in particular this makes sense as most only allow a certain amount of people in to the club a night so that they don’t get too crowded. If they only let in thin people they can let more people in and thus increase their profits. In addition some people don’t go to clubs that are known to have lots of ugly people – certainly a club filled with beautiful people is a draw. Grossly obese people tend to be uglier than svelte people and, as such, banning <persons of high consumption> will increase the amount of people that wish to go to the club. Almost all clubs ban trainers and tracksuits so that people make an effort with their appearance (and thus look better) and it’s not soo different from that.

Secondly I think that if fat people were denied access to all clubs then the likelihood of them losing weight would increase as they’d still want to go clubbing. Getting people to lose weight is ultimately a good thing for society as thinner people cost the NHS less, eat less food (which there’s a worldwide shortage of), are more active (and thus more productive) and live longer (thus bringing in higher taxes for the government).

Mostly I thus support the owner (though I think the policy should have applied to men as well as women and believe that applying it only to women was inexcusable).
 
fini said:
<puts on twelve layers of flame-proof suits>

To be honest I disagree with all <women of disproportionate size>. Firstly, it should be every club/shop owners choice who he allows to enter/buy as long as it’s not based on religious/sexist/racist grounds. 'Fattist' is not the same as religion, sex and race as none of these are negative things whereas all medical research shows being fat is a negative thing. For clubs in particular this makes sense as most only allow a certain amount of people in a night so that they don’t get too crowded. If they only let in thin people they can let more people in and thus increase their profits. In addition some people don’t go to clubs that are known to have lots of ugly people – certainly a club filled with beautiful people is a draw. Grossly obese people tend to be uglier than svelte people and, as such, banning <persons of high consumption> will increase the amount of people that wish to go to the club. Almost all clubs ban trainers and tracksuits so that people make an effort with their appearance (and thus look better) and it’s not soo different from that.

Secondly I think that if fat people were denied access to all clubs then the likelihood of them losing weight would increase as they’d still want to go clubbing. Getting people to lose weight is ultimately a good thing for society as thinner people cost the NHS less, eat less food (which there’s a worldwide shortage of), are more active (and thus more productive) and live longer (thus bringing in higher taxes for the government).

Mostly I thus support the owner (though I think the policy should have applied to men as well as women and believe that applying it only to women was inexcusable).
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Can't we just shoot them? :(
 
Tefal said:
Their property they can let whoever they want in, if they want a Scandinavian themed place with only tall blond chicks then they can. Just so long as they say you're not allowed in because of your shoes etc etc
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Tefal said:
No be cause gays and blacks do not really have a choice, nor do a very very tiny proportion of fat people, who have certain medical conditions. But most are only the size they are because of the amount of crap they shovel down.


Gay / black / very small minority of fat people = not a choice and protected by law

Majority of fat people = choice not protected by law.


Would you be ok with a "No chav" rule? or is hat ok cause they offend you ;)
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You got me there. Of course I'd be perfectly ok with a "no chav" rule - because yes, they offend me.

However that's the point I was trying to get across to yourself. We all have our ideas of where we want to be and what ideal surroundings we would like. Well, "waaah waaahh", the world isn't your oyster folks. Welcome to reality.

Besides, there'll always be the people out there who argue that some chavs aren't like that by choice....they're like that due to economic and social difficulties. Who wins?

What about religion? Would you be OK with a "No Muslims" or "No Christians" sign? Religion is clearly a choice, yet protected by law?

Oh, and black is very much a choice...look at Michael Jackson :p

Oh, and Gay....hey, fatties - stop eating so much. Gays, stop kissing guys. Not quite that simple, is it?
 
Pestilence said:
You got me there. Of course I'd be perfectly ok with a "no chav" rule - because yes, they offend me.

However that's the point I was trying to get across to yourself. We all have our ideas of where we want to be and what ideal surroundings we would like. Well, "waaah waaahh", the world isn't your oyster folks. Welcome to reality.

Besides, there'll always be the people out there who argue that some chavs aren't like that by choice....they're like that due to economic and social difficulties. Who wins?

What about religion? Would you be OK with a "No Muslims" or "No Christians" sign? Religion is clearly a choice, yet protected by law?

Oh, and black is very much a choice...look at Michael Jackson :p

Oh, and Gay....hey, fatties - stop eating so much. Gays, stop kissing guys. Not quite that simple, is it?
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It's quite simple.

There are no laws discriminating against fat people. So we can kick them out if we want. There are laws against discriminating religion or sexuality though, so the terrists and butticklers will have to come along. :p There would be a few nightclubs run by people who'd only want certain religion/gender/sexuality/race or whatever in. But that's against the law right now.
 
Pestilence said:
Besides, there'll always be the people out there who argue that some chavs aren't like that by choice....they're like that due to economic and social difficulties. Who wins?
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Not all people from chav areas are chavs it's a choice.


What about religion? Would you be OK with a "No Muslims" or "No Christians" sign? Religion is clearly a choice, yet protected by law?
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Their is no economic advantage to banning certain religions, unlike banning fat chicks, also it would be very very difficult to do.

Oh, and Gay....hey, fatties - stop eating so much. Gays, stop kissing guys. Not quite that simple, is it?
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Current medical research shows due to brain structure and reaction to pheromones, that it ain't a choice ;)
 
If the owner does want overweight women then I guess that's his decision. A sign would be nice on the outside to avoid thier embarrisment.

It's similer to the dress code in a sense. But it's harder to fix over a short peroid.
 
Are pubs/clubs not allowed to deny service to people based on race/religion/sexuality?

I think they should be able to deny service to whoever they want, for whatever reason. They are a privately owned business, they own the land the business is on, and there are plenty of other places to go for a night out so what the owner says goes IMHO. Otherwise it's just politically-correct nannying to me.
 
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They are doing them a favour. If more people were like them then overweight people would have a motivation for losing weight therefore improving their health overall. :p
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
Are pubs/clubs not allowed to deny service to people based on race/religion/sexuality?

I think they should be able to deny service to whoever they want, for whatever reason. They are a privately owned business, they own the land the business is on, and there are plenty of other places to go for a night out so what the owner says goes IMHO. Otherwise it's just politically-correct nannying to me.
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they can they just have to give a different reason ;)
 
KNiVES said:
What happens if an obese person falls over in a crowded room and possibly crush somebody, causing potentially serious injury? Would people tolerate the body odour of obese people, who sweat earlier and often? Would the unattactive sight of obese people dancing turn people away? Would obese people use the facilities as they were intended for, instead of just sitting around?

You might think it's a bit far-fetched, but these are serious questions that merit some thought. Personally I think it's off-putting to see fatties dance. You ever notice there's a large space between fat people and healthy people on the dancefloor? Nobody wants to dance with fatty, because it's aesthetically offputting to the extreme, because they stink and because they take up room.
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To be honest, every club I've been in since the smoking ban -- everyone stinks. It's not just the fatties you see out there covered in sweat.

So, you state you're not happy with fat people in the club because they'd just sit around instead of "using the facilities", then go on to say you don't like them in the club because they're offputting to look at when dancing. Are you happy with anything? Maybe you'd prefer they just sat at home stuffing biscuits in their faces because they're not allowed to be anywhere - then you can continue with your peurile vitriol instead of being amazed at the fact that the heifer is actually getting some exercise from dancing!

With your "fat person falling over and crushing someone" comment you seem to be living in a cartoon fantasy world, tbh. In this particular thread, are we setting "fat" or "obese" as a 600-pound behemoth, or somebody who's a couple of stone overweight? A huge, lean, hunk-tastic bodybuilding flexmaster would cause just as much, if not more, damage than a fatty should he fall on a smaller girl on the dancefloor.
 
Pestilence said:
Are you happy with anything? Maybe you'd prefer they just sat at home stuffing biscuits in their faces because they're not allowed to be anywhere
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What is this nonsense? We're talking about them being removed from one club, not all clubs.

I'll have you know I'm fat and I don't give a **** about this protest, it's the owner's right.
 
It's because fat women aren't attractive. Guys can go to the club and see about 70% of women who are nice looking insted of 30% or whatever, this would boost the amount of people who go there.

Also does the fat rule apply to men too? I don't think it would.
 
to be honest, if being fat meant you got refused entry to places, then people would think twice before munching 10 bigmacs and washing it down with 14 litres of coke lol
 
Pestilence said:
To be honest, every club I've been in since the smoking ban -- everyone stinks. It's not just the fatties you see out there covered in sweat.

So, you state you're not happy with fat people in the club because they'd just sit around instead of "using the facilities", then go on to say you don't like them in the club because they're offputting to look at when dancing. Are you happy with anything? Maybe you'd prefer they just sat at home stuffing biscuits in their faces because they're not allowed to be anywhere - then you can continue with your peurile vitriol instead of being amazed at the fact that the heifer is actually getting some exercise from dancing!

With your "fat person falling over and crushing someone" comment you seem to be living in a cartoon fantasy world, tbh. In this particular thread, are we setting "fat" or "obese" as a 600-pound behemoth, or somebody who's a couple of stone overweight? A huge, lean, hunk-tastic bodybuilding flexmaster would cause just as much, if not more, damage than a fatty should he fall on a smaller girl on the dancefloor.
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Are you fat ? :p
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
What is this nonsense? We're talking about them being removed from one club, not all clubs.

I'll have you know I'm fat and I don't give a **** about this protest, it's the owner's right.
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Yes but you also have long flowing hair and call your self a lady :o


There are specialist clubs for your sort ¬_¬
 
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