Bear with it's head stuck in a jar?

Knubje said:
Maybe so...still, hard to believe that once in 6 days there was no oppertunity. It must have stopped to rest at some point surely?
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they can be quite difficult to find once they've ran off...


Hunting would be a l0ot easier otherwise.

But are you seriusly thinking that national park members the veterinarian (needed to judge how much tranq to use) the animal control officers and all the others trained for carefully but more importantly safely capturing dangerous animals just "didn't try" just because they wanted to kill it for fun ?:/

Or do you think they might know a little bit more about it than you?
 
z0mbi3 said:
Also if people couldn't get close enough to a bear without it scarpering then why worry about it going into a town? Presumably it would just run the opposite direction?

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cause in a town its likely to get scared (cars lots of people yelling screaming etc) and be surrounded/cornered. and cornered animals generally tend to get a big fighty.
 
Knubje said:
But if it did get that close to maulling someone , they coulda tranq'd it at least :)
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and then what hope in the few minutes it takes for it to go down it decides it wont kill that person?:confused:

If a bear is coming for me I want lots of people to shoot it quickly and repeatedly.
 
Tefal said:
they can be quite difficult to find once they've ran off...


Hunting would be a l0ot easier otherwise.

But are you seriusly thinking that national park members the veterinarian (needed to judge how much tranq to use) the animal control officers and all the others trained for carefully but more importantly safely capturing dangerous animals just "didn't try" just because they wanted to kill it for fun ?:/

Or do you think they might know a little bit more about it than you?
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This is exactly what I thought. All the trained people who must have been involved: Rangers, Bear Experts, Vets, etc, etc and there was still no way to save it?

Finding a bear with experience and tracking dogs I imagine would be possibe, everything can be found if you look hard enough.

I mean couldn't they lay some elaborate Ray Mears style trap for bears and coax/force it into it?

I don't doubt that killing it after 6 days of what must have been toture was the right thing to do and that they didn't want to kill it.
 
Finding a bear with experience and tracking dogs I imagine would be possibe, everything can be found if you look hard enough.

I mean couldn't they lay some elaborate Ray Mears style trap for bears and coax/force it into it?
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So you want to find a sleeping animal and get it to stand still for a few minutes in the open to aim (and if it runs after being tranqed ina a forest it can hurt it's self) by following it with a large number of people and dogs?

Or by cornering it? either one is going to result in it running or getting cornered and very very angry.
 
z0mbi3 said:
are you being serious?



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I think the point you're missing is that public safety could have been maintained by just shooting the bear with a tranquilizer dart instead of a bullet. They'd already spent 6 days trying to do this then when they had a propper opportunity to do so they wasted it.

I'm not pretending to know everything that happened but it wouldn't suprise me if those 6 days weren't exactly well spent either.
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I'm just waiting for the police to claim they couldnt catch the bear because it had links to Al Quieda. It had probably been on a training course in Afghanistan
 
as I understand it, it's not easy to just simple say "move along" to a bear. Once they have wandered into a town, they *will* come back. Jar or no jar.
 
Knubje said:
Maybe so...still, hard to believe that once in 6 days there was no oppertunity. It must have stopped to rest at some point surely?
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The American authorities are constantly tranquillizing bears and removing them into remoter areas.Park rangers and state police do this all the time. Seen it happen at first hand as a large female black bear entered our campground in Yosemite.

IF they couldn't tranq it in then they couldn't tranq it. Why so many morons posting anti-American crap I don't know.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
as I understand it, it's not easy to just simple say "move along" to a bear. Once they have wandered into a town, they *will* come back. Jar or no jar.
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And thats the problem, the standard policy is to really scare the bear with a pack of dogs if possible. Hopefully the bear runs away and will never return. If it does it will be tranquillized and transported back to the wilds after being tagged. If the same bear is picked up in a down then it will likely be shot because it has developed a habit of poaching human food. Depends on the area though, those places with a lot of bear problems the bears are only put down if they show aggression to people.
 
D.P. said:
IF they couldn't tranq it in then they couldn't tranq it. Why so many morons posting anti-American crap I don't know.
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For the record my opinions stem from the fact that I am dissapointed that there was nothing that could be done for the animal, except to shoot it. Not from being "anti-American".
 
i think Jimbo & Ned were the ones doing the 'tranquillising'

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Don't remember Winnie the Pooh ever having this problem with his jar.

n00b bear :rolleyes:

In all seriousness though thats quite sad but not worth making a fuss over.
 
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