Carrying a Knife

placeholder · 2 Aug 2008 at 13:56

shauncr91 said:
I think anything up to 6" within reason, is (Or was) legal.

My girlfriend said the same.

Psyk · 2 Aug 2008 at 13:59

shauncr91 said:
I think anything up to 6" within reason, is (Or was) legal.

I think it's 3" now.

I think this is completely ridiculous. For one thing, you are just taking their word that they won't use it. They probably won't, but that's not the point. Why should their word be worth any more than anyone else's because they are religious? I am absolutely against creating separate laws for people simply based on what relgion they follow. If they are allowed to carry these knives, then so should everyone else. Or more sensibly, they should not be allowed to carry them. I thought it was acceptable for Sikhs to carry small symbolic "knives"? Why is that not enough for them?

placeholder · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:03

Psyk said:
I think it's 3" now.

I think this is completely ridiculous. For one thing, you are just taking their word that they won't use it. They probably won't, but that's not the point. Why should their word be worth any more than anyone else's because they are religious? I am absolutely against creating separate laws for people simply based on what relgion they follow. If they are allowed to carry these knives, then so should everyone else. Or more sensibly, they should not be allowed to carry them. I thought it was acceptable for Sikhs to carry small symbolic "knives"? Why is that not enough for them?

Thats exactly it. Where do you draw the line. Im just going to walk around with this decorative religious grenade, dont mind me......

Rich_L · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:03

Freedom said:
Say what you wish, But I dont really care about his religion, Hes living in Britain, Our Laws, We ban the carrying of knife and thats the way it should be, No exceptions.

Well no, 'our law' is that there is an exception for religious reasons, so he's perfectly within the law.

Craig321 · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:03

skippi90 said:
I vote that the religion is Monopoly. The rules are already there. If you're good you go to Mayfair, if not, Jail. Mr. Monopoly rewards you with things such as Community Chest but can also test you by offering Chance.

We can go door to door like Jehova's Witnesses and just leave the rules for them to ponder over.

Sounds like a plan! Then we can create new rules as we go along

sniffy said:
I'm in \o/

I'll start making the leaflets.

shauncr91 · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:05

ignore

placeholder · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:07

Rich_L said:
Well no, 'our law' is that there is an exception for religious reasons, so he's perfectly within the law.

That makes our law wrong.

JBuk · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:07

placeholder said:
Thats exactly it. Where do you draw the line. Im just going to walk around with this decorative religious grenade, dont mind me......

ahh The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch RUN AWAYYYYY !!

CliffyBiro · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:09

Craig321 said:
Sounds like a plan! Then we can create new rules as we go along

Just like any other religion then.

placeholder · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:11

JBuk said:
ahh The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch RUN AWAYYYYY !!

Hoi! Have some respect or i'll put you on "the list"

Tefal · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:17

daven1986 said:
im sorry but you obviously do not understand the sikh religion. they carry it only if they are VERY religious and would never use it unless they needed to defend themselves or their family, and probably wouldn't use it even then.

Or if their just some ****er looking for an excuse to carry a knife?

Greenlizard0 · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:20

MattandJet said:
Aviationanity, duh. (i make myself laugh sometimes )

:/

At least somebody's laughing...

placeholder · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:22

Greenlizard0 said:
:/

At least somebody's laughing...

I laughed but i did it quietly.

ironman · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:32

Any sikh wearing the kirpan (sword) does it with honour and respect and is not used for violence, plus the blade is not live. If you have a problem with these countries laws, how about you pack your bags and leave? Can't stand all these whingers who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

DB_SamX · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:35

IS IT OPTIONAL TO WEAR A KIRPAN?
No! It is mandatory for initiated Sikhs to carry a Kirpan (this is recognised by the British Law).

IS IT LEGAL TO CARRY A KIRPAN IN BRITAIN?
Yes it is! Under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Criminal Justice 1996 (section 3 and 4) allows anyone to carry a blade exceeding the length of 3 inches for religious, cultural or work related reasons. The Criminal Justice Act and the 2003 Religious Discrimination Act safeguards the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan

People ought to write to their MP if they disagree, not just have whinge.

Fothsn · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:35

gurdas said:
Any sikh wearing the kirpan (sword) does it with honour and respect and is not used for violence, plus the blade is not live. If you have a problem with these countries laws, how about you pack your bags and leave? Can't stand all these whingers who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

Pack their bags and leave? Sorry but it’s our county I think it should be them packing their bags.

DB_SamX · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:38

Fothsn said:
Pack their bags and leave? Sorry but it’s our county I think it should be them packing their bags.

And what if they are English? England is their country of birth. THe country allows them to carry it, so respect that fact but if you don't, get proactive to change the law.

JBuk · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:39

gurdas said:
Any sikh wearing the kirpan (sword) does it with honour and respect and is not used for violence, plus the blade is not live. If you have a problem with these countries laws, how about you pack your bags and leave? Can't stand all these whingers who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

who cares if they do it with honour and respect? the blade is still intimidating to people who have no idea of why its is carried

why should there be one law for the majority but allowances for religions?

Fothsn · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:40

DB_SamX said:
And what if they are English? England is their country of birth. THe country allows them to carry it, so respect that fact but if you don't, get proactive to change the law.

I’ll look into it, it’s okay to have one rule for one and one for people with religious beliefs? Come on it’s a joke.

uknowist · 2 Aug 2008 at 14:41

sikhs can also have like a necklace or bracelet type of thing that has a small knife on it as a substitution to carrying a real one