UK Bin Crimes To Carry Heavier Penalty Than Theft

Around here the council charge to take your garden waste as they are trying to be more green.

It makes me laugh because they think charging people will save the planet when in fact more and more people are now having bonfires in their garden as they can't afford to have their garden waste collected.

The same will be for the overflowing bin thing. People will either dump it elsewhere or burn it in their garden. Give it a few months and we will all be getting fined for having bonfires.
 
I used to live in Manchester where they do have wheely bins and moving here where they don't was a bit of a shock. It's kind of old fashioned to use bags. This makes me pleased we don't have them... Though we have been informed we are getting them next year. :(

Utterly pathetic. But what can we do? The government don't listen to reason and the vast majority of people are too lazy to actually do anything about it... all while they have 11 weeks off work.
 
In some instances though they need it ,in my street we all have drives so the bin gets moved to the end of the drive and I could leave it there all week if I wanted .But my gf road they have no drive and the bins get put out blocking the pavements then with parked cars you have to walk in the middle of the road to get past ,this polish family across the road from her leave the bin out for several days ,now they deserve a fine .
 
Skull said:
If bin men are only doing 50% of the collections they did before, have 50% of the workforce been laid off or is it just an easier job now?
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Actually the bin man have the same amount of work, as the weight and number of bags from your household is the same regardless of how many times they come around. They stretch routes across two weeks, during that time your load gets heavier, the only difference is that council pays them less money for contracts.

We have weekly collections but going by my experience with late timings in our neighbourhood I can only imagine what two week old bags full of old food, toilet products and kids nappies must smell like when they get ripped open by foxes.
 
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bin men must have the cushyiest job ever, "oh this one is a millimetre open wont be taking this one" they could basically go down a whole street and never collect anything. They are the laziest bunch of bums in Guildford they spread more rubbish over the streets than they collect and if you have anything poking over the top of your recycling box then they take nothing and leave it rotting for another week. I sometimes wonder if labour are the new third reich.
 
Whoever thought of the two week collection times is quite clearly a moron - we have one week collections for a reason, to stop the spread of disease. I thought we had 'loads' of space for crap in landfills anyway, it's just EU targets.

I live in flats so I get 3 huge business style bins that get emptied twice a week, it's ****ing win. Hope this money scheming idea isn't taken on by the people we've just voted in.
 
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atpbx said:
labour scum.

A bit harsh, but i cant think of anything else to describe them that fits.
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Not harsh enough, they're scum of the ****ing earth our government.

It's great they want us to recycle i'm all for recycling, but giving binmen the choice to not collect a wheely bin if the lids open? Disgrace.

The carrier bags are biodegradable now, who really gives a crap if there is a bit of plastic buried under a hill for 50 or so years till it turns to soil?
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It's a waste of plastic considering you could just buy some bags for cheap and bring them in each time you want to do your weekly shopping.
You could buy 10 reusable bags for as little as a quid and save using 1000 carrier bags a year, thats worth it in my eyes. Saving the environment from being full of **** for future generations because if you keep using them you'll never be rid of them rotting away.

From experience, when i used to work on checkouts years ago it was disgusting how many bags were used from just one till.
 
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Fortunately Hounslow council still have standard weekly collections (no wheelie bins), the only seperates they request are magazines\newspapers in a green box.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Are they? Or do they just break down into small pieces faster, which will always just be bits of plastics getting smaller and smaller and never actually degrade back to close to raw components?
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Yes they degrade back into hydrogen carbon and oxygen, generally by being more easily affected by bacteria along with probbably a slight weakness to UV for above ground degradation.

Also please don't tell me you're like those friends of the earth morons who say we should use plant based plastic not oil based, despite them being exactly the same after processing, but the plant one requires substantially more pollution to process.
 
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Yes they degrade back into hydrogen carbon and oxygen, generally by being more easily affected by bacteria along with probbably a slight weakness to UV for above ground degradation.

Also please don't tell me you're like those friends of the earth morons who say we should use plant based plastic not oil based, despite them being exactly the same after processing, but the plant one requires substantially more pollution to process.
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No Im not, but Im not sold by these 'faster degrading bags'. Surely its the same as anything else plastic, the only degrading is getting into smaller and smaller piece. It never rots to an extent that it gives of hydrogen gas and your left with clump of coal :p nor anything close to an oil like liquid hydrocarbon?

If there is a bacteria that eats plastic, what does it leave behind and how common is it?
 
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Also please don't tell me you're like those friends of the earth morons who say we should use plant based plastic not oil based, despite them being exactly the same after processing, but the plant one requires substantially more pollution to process.
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Fusion reactors and running out of oil probably makes it a good idea for the future? Even better if it actually needs pollution to make it :p

Actually scrap that. Cotton bags ***.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
No Im not, but Im not sold by these 'faster degrading bags'. Surely its the same as anything else plastic, the only degrading is getting into smaller and smaller piece. It never rots to an extent that it gives of hydrogen gas and your left with clump of coal :p nor anything close to an oil like liquid hydrocarbon?

If there is a bacteria that eats plastic, what does it leave behind and how common is it?
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no there are thousands of different kinds of plastic. and it doesn't go to pure hydrogen carbon and oxygen it mainly goes to water + CO2 through the digestion by enzymes.


They don't eat plastic they can just break down certain hydrocarbon chains that the plsatic naturally decays into, these chains are more like the hydrocarbon chains you beark down.
 
Either way you're wasting oil and energy. And you'll have loads of bags lying about rotting, flaoting about in the ocean.
To keep making the bags you use plastic and energy. To recycle the bags, the same thing.
Therefore why not use proper shopping bags, they're easier to pack with and don't split allowing your beer to smash everwhere anyway.

I aint particularly earth freindly, but I do what I can do easily to help out. I drive fast car because thats good fun, but i recycle and don't waste a load of plastic bags, dont' leave lights on etc.
 
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pitchfork said:
Either way you're wasting oil and energy.
To keep making the bags you use plastic and energy. To recycle the bags, the same thing.
Therefore why not use proper shopping bags, they're easier to pack with and don't split allowing your beer to smash everwhere anyway.
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I use a back pack meself :p

Lidl don't give you bags :D
 
This is why coal fires are great, why risk paying ridiculous fines when you can just burn the majority of your rubbish. Screw the environment...
Bin rules/recycling are probably a good thing. If the average Joe gets punished for not hooking the net on the recycle bin correctly or because typical British scum use their bin, then the rules are ridiculous.

Why did the council not provide CCTV cameras with all our bins? :|
 
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