Caporegime
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That doesn't mean they should stop investigating ways to protect their property.
Its easier to pirate.
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That doesn't mean they should stop investigating ways to protect their property.
I'm all up for them creating ways to protect it that don't affect legitimate consumers, but unfortunately that isn't always the case. The closest i have seen to a 'successful' piracy anti-measure was Mass Effect which apparently fended off pirates for just under a month before it was cracked. While doing this there were minimal problems encountered by legitimate owners (there were a couple apparently, which is still unacceptable but at least it wasn't like bioshock).
It was eventually cracked however, so even the small number of problems encountered for legitimate owners were unnecessary
I know there are different types of copy protection but your post over generalised & made out like you get that problem all the time.
Inconvenience! Nothing is perfect & that's life.
Its Inconvenience to be stopped by the police random check points even tho you have done nothing wrong.
Its Inconvenience to go round a friends house & him be fast asleep & not answering the doorbell, it would better for me if he left his front door unlocked.
ect... we could go on all day about Inconvenience to yourself that protect the benefit & welfare of others & you wish it was not there as its only them who have something to lose if the protection was not there as its just a Inconvenience for you.
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I keep on hearing it will be cracked so don't bother.
Lets say if it could not be cracked then you will try to find a new argument about not having anti piracy measures.
Its about them making as much money as they can before its cracked.
Its about getting as many secrets sent & executed before the code is cracked...ect.
Doing it while not being any Inconvenience or a problem to anyone is near impossible.... unless you know of one?
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Never had a problem installing a game - including starforce or whatever that was.
I agree that needing a disc in the drive is unacceptable - far too annoying when a game runs solely from the hard disk.
But i do still feel that downloading a game / crack is never acceptable.
I agree that needing a disc in the drive is unacceptable - far too annoying when a game runs solely from the hard disk.
But i do still feel that downloading a game / crack is never acceptable.
No, i would commend them. If anti-piracy was effective i wouldn't have a problem with it at all, but it isn't, 99% of games are cracked within a week of release (some are even cracked before they go to retail). The problem i have is that sometimes people using illegal downloaded copies have an easier time of getting a game working than those who have legitimately bought it (one such example being bioshock). If the game was uncrackable then i wouldn't have a problem with any complications caused by it to legitimate owners as pirates wouldn't have any access to it at all.
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But its not your money to lose ether way is it.
The whole point of being a pirate is to have an easier time than others & for free to boot.
And its simple really..you take the rough with the smooth or get nothing as if things keep going the way they are it will be console only & then you will have no choice & have to have the DVD in the drive.
I don't like having to have to put the DVD in the drive to play a game but i do so because i get the benefit of playing it on the PC with better everything.
I will take the copyprotection over a console thank you.
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How can you dislike having a boxed copy?
Example, I went to the shop, bought Orange Box, now its sitting nicely on my shelf and the key is registered to steam so I can download it whenever I want / play without disks etc.
Win!
Because I like the cleanness of not having a physical copy in my house, Its just another bit of plastic lying around.
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I gave it another go today, trying a different no-cd patch, still crashes within seconds of starting the game, so its going back to the shop tomorrow.
free working games ?
Yeah if every country had unlimited downloads.
In Belgium you are limited to 10 gig per month. So downloading steam games is a big no no unless you want to pay extra for exceeding bandwidth.
i hate to say it and flame me if you will
but steams system [or an extention of their services at least] is really what is needed to keep pc gaming alive
if all publishers had the opportunity to release games on steam then there would be no copy protection ruining peoples time
i think pc gaming needs a retail presence
but why not add steam codes to retail games too
once activated are then tied to an account like my retail version of orange box
that way you could buy the games you want and add them to your steam account
for auto updates
community options etc
pc games are fragmented
xfire/steam/windows live
there are too many community programs making it difficult to keep track
it would be great if steam does 2 things
1 opens itself and its current system up to all publishers
that way they make money from access rights - plus no game can be pirated
retail games could link to an account via their product code and that eliminates the need for the disk
so if you lose it its no big deal!
2 localise content - if all steam prices were up to date for their region and fit into the retail market they would make a shedload more
regional currency would make their market global and increase sales
$69 for COD4? thats £40 after tax
for a pc game?!
come on - people are going to pirate it!
if it was competativley priced then i would buy all my games off steam
i hate boxes
i dont sell pc games on or buy second hand due to license codes etc
i think if steam pushed themselves they could take control of all these odds and ends and be names as the saviour of pc games
their system is in tact - it stuns me why they do not offer it to all publishers in exchange for 5% or something
they would still make a killing and would be doing us and the publishers all a favour
more money for the publishers means better games for us
but steams system [or an extention of their services at least] is really what is needed to keep pc gaming alive
if all publishers had the opportunity to release games on steam then there would be no copy protection ruining peoples time
i think pc gaming needs a retail presence
but why not add steam codes to retail games too
once activated are then tied to an account like my retail version of orange box
that way you could buy the games you want and add them to your steam account
for auto updates
community options etc
pc games are fragmented
xfire/steam/windows live
there are too many community programs making it difficult to keep track
it would be great if steam does 2 things
1 opens itself and its current system up to all publishers
that way they make money from access rights - plus no game can be pirated
retail games could link to an account via their product code and that eliminates the need for the disk
so if you lose it its no big deal!
2 localise content - if all steam prices were up to date for their region and fit into the retail market they would make a shedload more
regional currency would make their market global and increase sales
$69 for COD4? thats £40 after tax
for a pc game?!
come on - people are going to pirate it!
if it was competativley priced then i would buy all my games off steam
i hate boxes
i dont sell pc games on or buy second hand due to license codes etc
i think if steam pushed themselves they could take control of all these odds and ends and be names as the saviour of pc games
their system is in tact - it stuns me why they do not offer it to all publishers in exchange for 5% or something
they would still make a killing and would be doing us and the publishers all a favour
more money for the publishers means better games for us
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Won't be doing that, you're spot on in my opinion.
They have to pay for bandwidth as well I suppose it's included in your 40 quid. If you are prepared to wait a while you can get steam games as great prices.
Completely agree with 99% of it.
I just want to add I prefer xfire above steam for the profiling and in game possibility's bit, but xfire also works in combo with steam so no biggie I guess... But I really want steam codes to be in all retail games, would solve pretty much everything...
cheers
i just wish there was some way of getting these points across to valve - i know it would be a big job - but if the publishers united and all run a product key that links to an account then you just wouldnt be able to pirate
if it was just as easy to download a game that you legally own as it was to walk to the shop for it then im sure everyone would do it
if you take away the option of pirating like valve did with steam then it would eliminate all these bs reports of *insertlatest game* undersells by 75% due to pirates
if something can be done - why not just do it
its in the publishers best interests to work together on this
i just wish there was some way of getting these points across to valve - i know it would be a big job - but if the publishers united and all run a product key that links to an account then you just wouldnt be able to pirate
if it was just as easy to download a game that you legally own as it was to walk to the shop for it then im sure everyone would do it
if you take away the option of pirating like valve did with steam then it would eliminate all these bs reports of *insertlatest game* undersells by 75% due to pirates
if something can be done - why not just do it
its in the publishers best interests to work together on this
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I am enjoying using Steam but if all the eggs were in one basket as such they would be in a very powerful position - perhaps too powerful? There would need to be a governing body regulating.