If there's really global warming...
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But we learned that plants take co2 and turn it into oxygen, which is why cutting down the amazon rainforest is bad for the world because there are less trees!
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People always said the government would find a way to tax people for air, co2 is just that. Only reason for me to go green would be to get off the grid and away from these companies because they are ******* useless when something goes wrong or you need some work doing.
Ha ha, that actually cracked me up.
But we learned that plants take co2 and turn it into oxygen, which is why cutting down the amazon rainforest is bad for the world because there are less trees!
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People always said the government would find a way to tax people for air, co2 is just that. Only reason for me to go green would be to get off the grid and away from these companies because they are ******* useless when something goes wrong or you need some work doing.
All living things (including plants) respire, which releases CO2, which means at night time forests generate loads of CO2, but during the daytime this is outweighed by photosynthesis.
As for global warming i think the current data is incomplete, but i wouldn't say their is nothing to be said for it. Their are natural cycles/variations, but we cannot say for certainty that human activity is not having an effect.
Do what? I always thought that through Photosynthesis plants absorbed CO2 and produced Oxygen.
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Anybody see the Earth documentary yesterday?
Anyway, according to the bloke on there the main problem is the methane gas locked in ice lakes up t'north.
It was quite weird watching ice lakes on fire.
Anyway, according to the bloke on there the main problem is the methane gas locked in ice lakes up t'north.
It was quite weird watching ice lakes on fire.
Urm, that's wrong Dolph as the science of climate change, the conclusions, pre-date the current political involvement.
I think what he's getting at is that climate change is being used as a tool to artificialy raise the price of driving a car to cut down congestion on our roads while making the government a ton of cash through taxation.
Sure, that might be the case now. In fact I think climate change is being use to justify some policy that is really being driven by energy security concerns. What the politicisation of climate change can't be said to do is discredit the climate change conclusions - as they came before the politicians.
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its happening for sure and annoys me that not enough is being done about it in the larger countries
What can we actualy do to stop it though if climate change is part of a natural process which I think it is.
Really, scientific papers from the 60's-80's would disagree with you if you think they share similar conclusions. It's really since the politically funded science kicked in that all the politically funded scientists have started agreeing and watching their research get badly promoted and presented without saying anything...
The way climate change is pushed by the media and the politicians is not supported by the science, the science is simply not as good yet as the presentation would claim. The models are flawed and incomplete, often to the point of irrelevance, the real climate is so poorly understood that the confidence limits given are so large as to render the model meaningless in any other field, and several of the models are innaccurate when run with todays data by the same amount that they predict a change (an error margin that, if continued, would actually mean temperatures don't rise at all). The politicisation of climate science has given it massive traction that the science itself does not justify.
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move to Mars and let the planet heal itself.... will take a few billion years. Surely everyone can see that humans have just accelerated the next cycle in Earth's natural progression, just seem to most dismiss it as it isn't directly going to effect them right now
30,000 scientists want to sue Al Gore for global warming fraud:
2000yr temperature record (the global warming gang won't go that far back for obvious reasons):
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/02/11/a-2000-year-global-temperature-record/
Scam tbh, if they really want to protect the climate they should start productively by not cutting all the rainforests down, recycling is of course a good idea but all this green tax = complete scam.
2000yr temperature record (the global warming gang won't go that far back for obvious reasons):
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/02/11/a-2000-year-global-temperature-record/
Scam tbh, if they really want to protect the climate they should start productively by not cutting all the rainforests down, recycling is of course a good idea but all this green tax = complete scam.
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The council (i.e. government) could also stop sending 30 page booklets every few weeks telling you what they're wasting our taxes on. It's criminal the amount of paper they waste on letters/books/magazines 99% of people throw straight in the bin.
Climate is clearly extremely complex system with lot of built in feedbacks which make small changes in something able to cause big unpredictable changes in the end. (chaos theory was born from climate study)
Change in ocean currents/weather patterns could cause formation of more ice and snow leading to negative feedback...
Melting of ice sheets again lowers Earth's albedo meaning more of suns energy is absorbed causing positive feedback...
Warm arctic enough and you suddenly have massive increase in methane (much stronger greenhouse gas) concentration...
Disturb oceans enough and methane hydrates might release their methane to atmosphere...
Also particle emissions block some sunlight from getting to surface so full effects of CO2 increase might be masked by them...
So you're basically saying that it's safe to point handgun to own head and start pulling trigger without having no idea is there cartridge in chamber and when trigger would release hammer.
Only major wrong thing is name, it should be global climate disturbance.
One of the few possible source for that level fast CO2 concentration jumps would be massive volcanic activity or something equally major which would have significant effects to planet.
But no geological evidence of anything such and massive volcanic activity would leave its other signs to ice cores.
Of course ice layers in cores don't come with year sticker and from this data it's impossible to tell which one is causing which effect but it's extremely clear that changes in temperature and CO2 concentration are closely related.
Anyone else having "SMOCE and SPIL" stocks under his pillow?
Or are you trying to be evidence for that human could survive bullet through head because there's "nothing critical for operation" in there?
A bullet through the head does not necessarily kill.
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My question is if there is global warming how come it's so cold where I am at the moment?
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Cutting down forrests to plant fruit and veg and also burning wood for fuel is what i meant, not going around planting tree's.
If you people did research into proper journals instead of reading wikipedia and the sun newspaper you'd have a far better understanding..
If you wish i can get you a login to download articles for free
Global warming means that the average global temp is increased by lets say 1 degrees
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