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The GTX 260 is faster than 4870

Cyber-Mav said:
im pretty sure those laptop users stuck with low end geforce gpus are happy with the cuda assists. since those guys cant even upgrade thier cards and the performance boosts cuda provides in not only games but other specialist apps is going to be a god send.
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I did say that though Mav. To those that will benefit from it then it's an amazing boost. To most it's not going to improve or change anything. Not for now though but I believe Nvidia will build on this and with their friendships with so many game developers, I can see this being a lot more beneficial to the mainstream in the future. By that time AMD will have the ability to do this too I'd imagine.

CUDA support to me is like how the quads vs duals in gaming compare. Very little support and only a few who benefit.
 
asim18 said:
Oh... will....

I told you to get off my nippple several posts ago.


I have read reviews of the 4870.

My posts in this thread have been in relation to the OP.

I won't buy a 4870, end of story.


Good bye!
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Dont buy one then I'm not telling you that you MUST, go buy a GTX260, I really hope you are happy... really I do.....

You are just been an immatue little kid from the soudns of it since I told you to use a search engine as the post sounded like you had done nothing and where basing your views off of one person which is not a good thing to do.

Save anymore immature comments for someone else :rolleyes:

Anyway either way its a gamble getting either card, just cant trust many reviews anymore, take everything with a pinch of salt, fair enough if everyone had consoles that you could upgrade graphics cards in from a selection then maybe you could base your views off one person/review but so many different combinations of hardware I guess its just one of those things that some time, some where someone will have a bad time with a GPU cause its not playing ball with the rest of the system.
 
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willhub said:
Dont buy one then I'm not telling you that you MUST, go buy a GTX260, I really hope you are happy... really I do.....

You are just been an immatue little kid since I told you to use a search engine as the post sounded like you had done nothing.

Save anymore immature comments for someone else :rolleyes:
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OK, Thanks for your time, cya. :p

I dont have any money to buy any gfx card btw.

And i didnt say i waned a GTX260.

You're like, "oh noes, someone badmouthed the 4870! battlestations"
 
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J.D said:
I did say that though Mav. To those that will benefit from it then it's an amazing boost. To most it's not going to improve or change anything. Not for now though but I believe Nvidia will build on this and with their friendships with so many game developers, I can see this being a lot more beneficial to the mainstream in the future. By that time AMD will have the ability to do this too I'd imagine.

CUDA support to me is like how the quads vs duals in gaming compare. Very little support and only a few who benefit.
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true say that.

another thing people need to look at is cuda itself. even if geforce based physx is a failure, thats not the be all and end all of cuda itself.
however if the ati havok based physics engine is a failure then its going to be a major upset since ati will have nothing else to fall back on.
cuda has already established itself, there is a hospital nere me that uses a cuda based system for doing tomographic scans, those 3 dimentional xray images.

do you guys think this is gonna boil down to a war like hd-dvd vs blue ray?
we have to remember though that the battle wont be cuda vs havok, but it will be geforce/agiea physx vs havok.
 
asim18 said:
OK, Thanks for your time, cya. :p

I dont have any money to buy any gfx card btw.

And i didnt say i waned a GTX260.

You're like, "oh noes, someone badmouthed the 4870! battlestations"
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No I'm just trying to correct them but then they go off on one and start talking about nipples, I mean whats that all about....

If someone came on here and said the 4870 is a pile o crap, then I'd tell them something must be wrong because that just aint the case and tell them to go look at reviews. fair enough if it would be outside in real life but this is a computer forum for computer talk on the internets.
 
op said:
UT3 @ 1920x1200, highest settings + 16xAF


OC'd 4870 =
Containment Demo = 127 FPS
Serenity Demo = 126 FPS
Torlan Demo = 125

@ same settings with 4xAA

OC'd 4870 =
Containment Demo = 130 FPS
Serenity Demo = 132 FPS
Torlan Demo = 129 FPS
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???
 
Oh also no one has pointed out, looks like HL2 and CSS have frame limiters on so they aint getting as high as they can get.

The UT3 one maybe CPU limited by looks of it? nothing in it really between those results.
 
asim18 said:
nice ninja edit cyber-may :p
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Cyber-Mav said:
true say that.

another thing people need to look at is cuda itself. even if geforce based physx is a failure, thats not the be all and end all of cuda itself.
however if the ati havok based physics engine is a failure then its going to be a major upset since ati will have nothing else to fall back on.
cuda has already established itself, there is a hospital nere me that uses a cuda based system for doing tomographic scans, those 3 dimentional xray images.

do you guys think this is gonna boil down to a war like hd-dvd vs blue ray?
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:D You could be right. Although with Blizzard and Havok on board and with Havok already having their fingers in so many games already I don't think they will fail and I know Nvidia have already got a good start. One thing worries me though, If they try to split the game titles then it's going to create a divide (Physic support as games would still run on either GPU) like we've never seen before. I don't think it's going to go this way as it would start to get really complicated. I think there will be a solution to this as anything else seems ridiculous to implement.

Seriously we can't have a popular Physx game on the Nvidia card that doesn't support Havok and vice versa. Do we all need two machines?. One Nvidia and one ATI?. It would help sort out fan boy issues :D. Jokes aside I think it would be too much of divide.

Again on CUDA Mav. Yeah it's great for some people and I'm overjoyed that it's helping hospitals do their amazing work a little bit quicker as all we have is time. Millions of other people including myself are truly thankful for that (I'm not mocking). When talking about gaming then I will find no use for it and I feel as if the majority of users will agree. Even if the 4800 series had it. I'd still not find a use for it. I just feel as if it's still too early yet to see this as a plus when buying a graphics card unless you'd be benefiting from it. If you are in that group then money would be wasted on ATI.
 
J.D said:
:Again on CUDA Mav. Yeah it's great for some people and I'm overjoyed that it's helping hospitals do their amazing work a little bit quicker as all we have is time. Millions of other people including myself are truly thankful for that (I'm not mocking). When talking about gaming then I will find no use for it and I feel as if the majority of users will agree. Even if the 4800 series had it. I'd still not find a use for it. I just feel as if it's still too early yet to see this as a plus when buying a graphics card unless you'd be benefiting from it. If you are in that group then money would be wasted on ATI.
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i guess what your trying to say is: PHYSX is no use as of yet. but CUDA itself does have its advantages?
 
asim18 said:
"Shader based AA" means ****-all according to this:
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Well sorry but I beg to differ. Just got:

Lost Planet Colonies Edition:
@ 1600x1200, highest settings, 16xAF + 24xAA

Snow=32FPS
Cave = 30FPS

This is with 16xAF + 24xAA NOT 4xAA and also on a 4850 NOT 4870 and as the 4850 is up to 30% slower shows you it does make a difference even on an Nvidia sponsored game!!

Even on the built in performance test I got around 45FPS on very crowded action scenes. I cannot be bothered to try it on my 4870 gaming rig as I know it would be a lot better still and as I was using Vista I know if I tried on XP it would be faster again.

At the end of the day its your choice but people on here are trying to help others by telling them 4870 is the best way to go if you compare it against the GTX260. Personally I could not care less either way I have no shares in either company but at the same time I do not mind sharing my experiences with others if I think it might help them.
 
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That makes no sense.

You buy the 2 ATI cards to primary game, the lower end CUDA (not the same as PhysX which is only part of it) card would be used for other uses like Medical (If indeed you were buying it due to CUDA).
 
AWPC said:
Well sorry but I beg to differ. Just got:

Lost Planet Colonies Edition:
@ 1600x1200, highest settings, 16xAF + 4xAA

Snow=32FPS
Cave = 30FPS

This is with 16xAF + 24xAA NOT 4xAA and also on a 4850 NOT 4870 and as the 4850 is up to 30% slower shows you it does make a difference even on an Nvidia sponsored game!!

Even on the built in performance test I got around 45FPS on very crowded action scenes. I cannot be bothered to try it on my 4870 gaming rig as I know it would be a lot better still and as I was using Vista I know if I tried on XP it would be faster again.

At the end of the day its your choice but people on here are trying to help others by telling them 4870 is the best way to go if you compare it against the GTX260. Personally I could not care less either way I have no shares in either company but at the same time I do not mind sharing my experiences with others if I think it might help them.
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You just said 4xAA, then 24xAA?? :confused:
 
Cyber-Mav said:
i guess what your trying to say is: PHYSX is no use as of yet. but CUDA itself does have its advantages?
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:) Yes.

It's not fun doing it in one sentence and simplifying it like you just have. Life is complicated therefore my posts will be! :D.
 
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