Publishers to fine 25,000 game pirates

uvmain said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

How? Just how?

What do you think a company like Codemasters can change to stop people downloading their games?

Make better games? Piffle.. they download because it's free and easy.
Make cheaper games? They're already pretty darn cheap imo!
Make.. ugh, I can't think of anymore.



And that's fine.. In fact that's what *should* happen.
But it doesn't give anyone the right to download it instead of buying it.

It's *not* the fault of the developers that some people like to get software for free!


Head.. hurts.. from banging... on wall..
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You realy are simple. Its not about stoping people downloading your game but rather getting them to buy it, having content which is only acessibile on codemaster servers would be a good start. Keep the servers up for so long as codemaster is in business. Keep patching the games with the odd extra bit of content for old games. Base you games around playing on codemaster servers, CD keys and all the rest, they then get control of there games rather than making and forgeting making and forgeting. Its all about multi-player, support and good games.
 
uvmain said:
I guess that means it's okay for you to download games, whilst I pay for them.

my apologies!
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lol

I'll refuse to pay for rubbish, and that will usually stay. Besides it's case of different laws, just downloading stuff here isn't illegal afaik here. ( or I've been told so many times and linked to articles about it and the site about the law itself...).

I still buy games, but only the best games games and ones that aren't €55+...
Unless it's a class AAA game like GTA IV which will have at least 100 hrs of gameplay, I refuse to pay anything above 20 € for most games really...
Most games I am buying recently are when they are ''50% off'' for the weekend on steam, or simply cheap already...
 
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uvmain said:
My apologies. After 8 pages of people spouting crap justifications, I tend to lump people who are against buying certain games with people who pirate.

I should probably take a break from this thread and go smoke :p
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but your a pirate yourself
 
Flammy said:
Eh, games like HL2 and most of the others on the steam catalogue are freely available on torrent sites. The only ones that are protected from piracy are the online only games like TF2 and WOW as they use server authentication. There is no protection for offline games that hasn't been cracked.
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Offline is a bore fest once its played a few days. Valves games may be on torrent but they still sell.
 
Orcish-Horde said:
Its all about multi-player, support and good games.
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So developers should just drop Single Player games like Portal, Peggle et al, because it's not worth the effort of protecting the from piracy?

Call me names all you like, but your ideas are just inane and hurtful to the legit gaming community.
 
bloodline76 said:
Who said I pirate games? I have already stated that I wasted £60 buying them. I am just stating that games companies arent all shiny and pure like you think they are.

in my world all advertising has to be correct otherwise its false advertising. Maybe you should get a grown up to help you understand it before making stupid statements on consumer rights.
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Unbelievable, you completely do not understand how this works do you? As I said, good or bad is completely subjective. Developers have the right to promote their product, how can it be a lie if is a matter of taste?

It seems I am not the one who is misinformed. BTW when did I say game companies are all shiny and pure? I don't remember that, sounds like someone is projecting, I simply believe in the system I live in.

Oh and you may or may not pirate, but you seem to have made it your mission to justify it.
 
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Orcish-Horde said:
You realy are simple. Its not about stoping people downloading your game but rather getting them to buy it, having content which is only acessibile on codemaster servers would be a good start. Keep the servers up for so long as codemaster is in business. Keep patching the games with the odd extra bit of content for old games. Base you games around playing on codemaster servers, CD keys and all the rest, they then get control of there games rather than making and forgeting making and forgeting. Its all about multi-player, support and good games.
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I think multiplayers games are the way forward. I only really play games that are multiplayer (apart from FM08).

Unfortunately single player games are too easy for the pirates to crack. Saying that, you will always have cracked servers too. Cant win.

Role out the fines lol
 
uvmain said:
And that's fine.. In fact that's what *should* happen.
But it doesn't give anyone the right to download it instead of buying it.
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I never said it did. However, the industry as a whole doesn't help itself by point-blank refusing the return of opened software.

Having said that, I did succesfully return a game that wouldn't run because I had a virtual CD drive installed. Sorry, but I'm not going to uninstall a utility that I use all the time just to play your game.
 
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hopefully this huge problem is slowly, quietly on its way out for a while at least

the new version of securom online activation used on alone in the dark and bionic commando rearmed seems to be working a treat and will be used on many many big titles released this winter
 
I can't be bothered past page 5, but just in line with the demo thing.

Crysis demo, nice.

All bits after demo bit in the full game, constant downward spiral of crapness ;)
 
Orcish-Horde said:
Offline is a bore fest once its played a few days.
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I happen to enjoy single player offline games and I suspect there are a few million others who feel the same.
Orcish-Horde said:
Valves games may be on torrent but they still sell.
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Irrelevant, it shows how even steam games with their authentication gubbins can be cracked and distributed illegally, thus rendering your 'business model' fundamentally flawed from the start.
 
uvmain said:
you're, not your

Re-read my threads, I stated I used to download games when I was younger. Nowadays, I pay for EVERY game I play.
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yes thankyou...i always make that silly mistake.

i dont need to re-read it though as i know what u wrote.
uvmain said:
Yeah, I've downloaded games in the past.
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just like u yourself have pointed out...you have downloaded in the past.

so when do you stop becoming a pirate ? when the download finishes :p

you have pirated and so have others so i dont see why your wishing such bad on others just because you have already copied the games you wanted
 
uvmain said:
So developers should just drop Single Player games like Portal, Peggle et al, because it's not worth the effort of protecting the from piracy?

Call me names all you like, but your ideas are just inane and hurtful to the legit gaming community.
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No they should not drop single player but they should realise that multi-player is the way forward. That includes good support and content updates, protecting against piracy is pointless. Making piracy pointless is what they need to do.
 
bee said:
hopefully this huge problem is slowly, quietly on its way out for a while at least

the new version of securom online activation used on alone in the dark and bionic commando rearmed seems to be working a treat and will be used on many many big titles released this winter
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i hope not, securom is beyond a joke
the quicker it dies the better
 
memory said:
yes thankyou...i always make that silly mistake.

i dont need to re-read it though as i know what u wrote.


just like u yourself have pointed out...you have downloaded in the past.

so when do you stop becoming a pirate ? when the download finishes :p

you have pirated and so have others so i dont see why your wishing such bad on others just because you have already copied the games you wanted
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Games ceased to be produced when he stopped downloading?

He used to download, probably because of ignorance (probably due to age). He grew up, he stopped. What is your point?
 
Flammy said:
I happen to enjoy single player offline games and I suspect there are a few million others who feel the same.

Irrelevant, it shows how even steam games with their authentication gubbins can be cracked and distributed illegally, thus rendering your 'business model' fundamentally flawed from the start.
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They are making their money without running to the courts, their business model is working.
 
memory said:
i dont see why your wishing such bad on others just because you have already copied the games you wanted
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Right. so a rapist gets locked up for 8 years, goes through rehab and whatnot, changes his ways.

Is he now not allowed to think that rape is wrong?

I can dislike piracy, regardless of whether I did it when I young and stupid or not.

Just so you know, I've literally paid for all the games I'd previously pirated.
 
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