Just got caught doing '60' in a 30

Mohinder said:
100 in a 30 is not necessarily an extreme, as has been explained more than once, a 30 limit sign does not mean you're driving through a school playground.
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I know that, I mean if you make a simple mistake, which everybody does, your going to do a lot of damage to yourself while doing those speeds.
 
Mohinder said:
a 30 limit sign does not mean you're driving through a school playground.
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Quite correct. But 99% of the time, it indicates that there are hazards along the road that you MIGHT encounter which, at 60mph, you would not be prepared to safely avoid.
 
Freedom said:
I know that, I mean if you make a simple mistake, which everybody does, your going to do a lot of damage to yourself while doing those speeds.
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And why does that mistake and the consequences depend on what number is painted on the signposted a few yards back?
 
Gaygle said:
I'll say i've done 60 in a 30mph limit before at the dead of night, but it was quite a bit safer to have been doing 30mph in them.
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Safer still to do 10mph. While you're at it, you may as well walk. And don't forget the body armour. Have you had your malaria injection?

Gaygle said:
I'll admit there might be a few 30 roads which are safe for higher speeds, but the vast majority are not safe in any way for 100mph - be it the state of the road surface, the type of vehicles which frequent the road or houses along the road.
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The vast majority does not mean all. Even if it were only one, one is enough.

Gaygle said:
You want to be careful with that one, dumb luck may just catch you out one day.
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It may. It may not. I may drop dead of a heart attack before this hour's up.
 
[TW]Fox;12386737 said:
And why does that mistake and the consequences depend on what number is painted on the signposted a few yards back?
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Some roads can be safely taken at a higher speed, but when it's a 30, there's usually some kind of danger, I know I don't know which road he was on and it might have been a long straight road.
 
[TW]Fox;12386748 said:
Theres that word again - usually. Note it isn't 'always'?
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I know, there is some roads that are set at 30 and I can never figure out why.

But 30 roads do tend to have a lot less straights and its harder to see what's the hazards in front of you.
 
Mohinder said:
Well if you avoid standing in the middle of the road at four in the morning, I'd say you've a fair chance of making it through the night.
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And that's what really annoys me, theres no real punishment for those that do decide to cut across a road recklessly. Idiot crosses a busy 60mph road and you hit him doing 58mph its considered an accident, hit him doing 65 and you get done for dangerous driving.
 
Mohinder said:
Safer still to do 10mph.
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No, because doing 10mph offers no significant advantage over doing 20 or 30mph.

Mohinder said:
And don't forget the body armour.
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....i'm not sure what my chances of being shot are compared to the chances of me having an accident whilst doing 60mph through a 30mph limit.... i'll let you try and work it out.

Mohinder said:
Have you had your malaria injection?
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I don't feel that protection is necessary considering there were only 1700 reported cases of malaria in the UK (correct as of 2006), 8 of which were fatal - and 57% of them were from people who had been travelling abroad. Again, i'm going to have to ask you - what do you think the chances are of me contracting malaria are, in comparison to me having a car accident whilst doing 60mph in a 30mph limit - not really a sensible comparison is it?


I'm not sure why i'm having to explain this to you, as you clearly know this - i can only assume you are "playing dumb" to try and invalidate my point - which isn't going to work.


Mohinder said:
The vast majority does not mean all.
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Never said it did. I said "vast majority" - which i can only say because i haven't surveyed every 30mph limit in the country.


Mohinder said:
It may. It may not. I may drop dead of a heart attack before this hour's up.
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Again with the "something really bad might happen to me tomorrow so i might as well drive at 200mph everywhere, smoke 500 cigarettes a day and take copious amounts of heroin" argument? It's getting old and it certainly doesn't wash.
 
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Gaygle said:
No, because doing 10mph offers no significant advantage over doing 20 or 30mph.
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It does in my case. 10mph, car pulls out on me, I bump into them. 30mph, I go over the bonnet and snap my neck.

Gaygle said:
....i'm not sure what my chances of being shot are compared to the chances of me having an accident whilst doing 60mph through a 30mph limit.... i'll let you try and work it out.
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Quiz time.

People you know that have been killed by speeding drivers in 30 limits in the dead of night! gogogo! Work it out.

Gaygle said:
I don't feel that protection is necessary considering there were only 1700 reported cases of malaria, 8 of which were fatal - and 57% of them were from people who had been travelling abroad. Again, i'm going to have to ask you - what do you think the chances are of me contracting malaria are, in comparison to me having a car accident whilst doing 60mph in a 30mph limit.
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See above.

Things you may have missed about the situations I describe:

1) takes no time at all to hit the ton on a bike

2) There are many many many nonsensical 30 limits in this country

3) Seriously, who are these people that stand in the middle of the road in the middle of nowhere at 4am in the morning?

Gaygle said:
I'm not sure why i'm having to explain this to you
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A) You don't have to

B) You think you do because you're an idiot

Gaygle said:
I'm not sure why i'm having to explain this to you, as you clearly know this - i can only assume you are "playing dumb" to try and invalidate my point - which isn't going to work.
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There is no playing dumb. There is your purposely disregarding everything sensible that's been said in this thread in favour of:

SPEEDING KILLS

Gaygle said:
Again with the "something really bad might happen to me tomorrow so i might as well drive at 200mph everywhere, smoke 500 cigarettes a day and take copious amounts of heroin" argument? It's getting old and it certainly doesn't wash.
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Nice job on twisting my ****ing words.

nudged the ton, in the dead of night, on a deserted industrial estate

is not the same as

200mph everywhere
500 cigarettes
doing heroin

Seriously. You look like an imbecile.









In fact, and I've left an obvious gap to be sure you won't miss this part, this whole thing can be boiled down to one question, which I'm fairly certain you'll avoid answering:

Is there such a thing as an occasion where it is acceptable to reach a speed of nearly 100mph in an area signposted as a 30mph limit?
 
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To be honest Mohinder I can't think of a situation where its 'acceptable' to do 100mph in a 30mph zone. 'Not the end of the world', sure, but 'acceptable'?
 
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