Oblivion
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It's a brilliant game although does need some downloads to improve over standard.
Getting rid of psychic guards is one of the most important things imo, especially for a criminal lifestyle.
Getting rid of psychic guards is one of the most important things imo, especially for a criminal lifestyle.
If you had a fast enough PC the graphics would be a lot better. I never used any mods tho, were they any good?
The main thing i found easier was the key mapping. I thought on the 360 the controls were laid out thoughtfully and worked very well. Where as on the PC i thought it was like they had just ported it across and the controls didn't seem to really gel together verys well. Could be quite awkard in places
The main thing i found easier was the key mapping. I thought on the 360 the controls were laid out thoughtfully and worked very well. Where as on the PC i thought it was like they had just ported it across and the controls didn't seem to really gel together verys well. Could be quite awkard in places
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I've got it on 360 and do enjoy it, the psychic guards are the killer though, just wish there was a mod for the 360 version to remove this aspect.
The graphics are absolute filth compared to a reasonable PC with some texture mods but it could be worse...
The graphics are absolute filth compared to a reasonable PC with some texture mods but it could be worse...
Oblivion has ZERO in common with Final Fantasy. The actual main story in Oblivion can be completed in about 10-14 hours (Or more depending on how you play) but the game isn't and wasn't made just for its story. Its main purpose is to explore the world and do quests based on the Elder Scrolls lore.
Oblivion is 100% better on the PC than anyother platform (you dont need an amazing PC to play it, a mid range PC would be fine) because you can use mods that fix some of the problems with the standard game, and add things that make the game much more enjoyable. It is still good on a console, but you wont get the same depth and enjoyment as you do from the PC version.
As for whether its worth a purchase or not, I've got to say its one of the only games of the last few years I can definitely say its worth spending your hard earned cash on. You can easily spend over 100+ hours in Oblivion, and each time you sit down to play will be different and unique.
No I dont work for bethesda
Oblivion is 100% better on the PC than anyother platform (you dont need an amazing PC to play it, a mid range PC would be fine) because you can use mods that fix some of the problems with the standard game, and add things that make the game much more enjoyable. It is still good on a console, but you wont get the same depth and enjoyment as you do from the PC version.
As for whether its worth a purchase or not, I've got to say its one of the only games of the last few years I can definitely say its worth spending your hard earned cash on. You can easily spend over 100+ hours in Oblivion, and each time you sit down to play will be different and unique.
No I dont work for bethesda
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http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2299
Alternatively:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5977
I prefer the Guard Overhaul because there's a lot of extra features.
There is also the DarkUI'd DarN interface, which I think is essential. The vanilla UI is huge and takes up half the screen, and the screen that shows your inventory only shows you about 6 items before you need to scroll down. This mod fixes it - it looks a lot better.
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Hey Onion....
Just a small but very important point - read up on choosing skills for your character. It is not obvious. In fact it is completely counter intuitive.
I put a long thread on these forums a few months ago, and I am sure other people have as well. Don't know if they are still around.
Levelling and skill levels in this game are most weird.
OK - I'll save you from looking...
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OK - Oblivion is a wonderful game but a bit quirky.
0) Unlike like most games, when you level most mobs level with you. This is unlike every other game I can think of. The implications are horrendous. For instance, if you level by just use of social skills and alchemy for example, you character is not really any stronger after levelling BUT THE MOBS ARE!!
1) Major and minor skills.
You don't want to level too fast, and levelling is driven by your major skills. Counter intuitively the skills you use most should be secondary skills and the ones you use least should be primary. This also enables you to control when you level.
2) Over levelling and under levelling. When you level you should get 5 points in three attributes as a bonus. This is controlled by how much you have used skills depending on that attribute prior to levelling. There is a wonderful little mod called diary or log or similar which lets you see at a glance how you are doing. If you get less that 3x5 points you are underlevelling. If you have loads of wasted points when you level you are overlevelling. This may sound as though it takes the fun out of the game but it doesn't - you just keep your eye on things.
3) If you don't consistently underlevel you will have no real trouble with the main quest at any level. Especially if you use conjuration. Personally I find the main story line a bit tedious and didn't even do it in my last run through the game. Note that the mages quest series is as long as some entire full price games. Oblivion is very big.
4) With Oblivion you get into the world and live in it doing as you please. You set your own goals. Get all the houses. Explore everything. Make a fortune. Finish the main quest ASAP. Finish the four main sub plots. Become an outlaw and kill everyone. Be a vampire. Whatever. You decide. The game doesn't.
5) Turn off grass. There is an easy console command to turn grass on and off. Unless you have a stonking PC.
6) Addons I like are 1) a nude add-on so that when I kill a mob and loot it, it doesn't look like it is wearing a nappy. I don't get jollies from looking at pixelated breasts. 2) An add-on to make herbs vanish when you pick them, and reappear when they are regrown. This should have been in the basic game. 3) A UI enhancer. This game is a port from a console and it shows in the awful UI and control system.
7) First character I played clocked up over 500 hours play.
8) There is plenty on the internet about this stuff but I strongly advise you to read up on levelling. If you do as I suggest by the time you hit about level 30 you are starting to become an in-game god. If you underlevel seriously badly you will die and die and die and stop playing a fantastic game out of frustration.
9) Alchemy is the key to victory and money. Potions STACK!!! Potions sell for good money. Alchemy should not be a major skill - you use it too much and you will level you character horribly fast with Alchemy as a main skill.
10) Custom magic spells are for me the most fun feature in the game. You can do some truly evil things with custom spells. A word of warning though: Chameleon is a game killer - when you get it high enough you are effectively invisible to all the mobs (even when hittting them) and the game becomes a walkthrough. I have a little rule NEVER to use it.
11) OK let me stress it finally - this game is about improving your character by bulking out attributes and skills. It is NOT about improving your character by improving its overall level. Levelling is just a tool.
12) Save Games: Save often. Make proper saves - don't always use the quicksave. THE GAME OFTEN DOES NOT REPORT A FAILURE TO SAVE A GAME - you think you are covered and you are not. The save games get very big. I ran out of disk space once but was able to keep on saving without the game telling me. I lost many hours of progress. That's what happens when you let console programmers loose on a PC The save games can be moved around without problem by windows standard utilities so you can archive off save games from your main save directory if required.
13) I never use "quick travel". It is more realistic to walk ride or teleport everywhere. You explore better and can collect herbs etc. Quicktravel is a sop for console kiddies with the attention span of mayflys. (This may be a step too far for some )
PS: OP you really need an extra gig of RAM - !GB is just not enough these days. 2GB will stop paging and give you a much smoother gaming experience.
Just a small but very important point - read up on choosing skills for your character. It is not obvious. In fact it is completely counter intuitive.
I put a long thread on these forums a few months ago, and I am sure other people have as well. Don't know if they are still around.
Levelling and skill levels in this game are most weird.
OK - I'll save you from looking...
____________________________
OK - Oblivion is a wonderful game but a bit quirky.
0) Unlike like most games, when you level most mobs level with you. This is unlike every other game I can think of. The implications are horrendous. For instance, if you level by just use of social skills and alchemy for example, you character is not really any stronger after levelling BUT THE MOBS ARE!!
1) Major and minor skills.
You don't want to level too fast, and levelling is driven by your major skills. Counter intuitively the skills you use most should be secondary skills and the ones you use least should be primary. This also enables you to control when you level.
2) Over levelling and under levelling. When you level you should get 5 points in three attributes as a bonus. This is controlled by how much you have used skills depending on that attribute prior to levelling. There is a wonderful little mod called diary or log or similar which lets you see at a glance how you are doing. If you get less that 3x5 points you are underlevelling. If you have loads of wasted points when you level you are overlevelling. This may sound as though it takes the fun out of the game but it doesn't - you just keep your eye on things.
3) If you don't consistently underlevel you will have no real trouble with the main quest at any level. Especially if you use conjuration. Personally I find the main story line a bit tedious and didn't even do it in my last run through the game. Note that the mages quest series is as long as some entire full price games. Oblivion is very big.
4) With Oblivion you get into the world and live in it doing as you please. You set your own goals. Get all the houses. Explore everything. Make a fortune. Finish the main quest ASAP. Finish the four main sub plots. Become an outlaw and kill everyone. Be a vampire. Whatever. You decide. The game doesn't.
5) Turn off grass. There is an easy console command to turn grass on and off. Unless you have a stonking PC.
6) Addons I like are 1) a nude add-on so that when I kill a mob and loot it, it doesn't look like it is wearing a nappy. I don't get jollies from looking at pixelated breasts. 2) An add-on to make herbs vanish when you pick them, and reappear when they are regrown. This should have been in the basic game. 3) A UI enhancer. This game is a port from a console and it shows in the awful UI and control system.
7) First character I played clocked up over 500 hours play.
8) There is plenty on the internet about this stuff but I strongly advise you to read up on levelling. If you do as I suggest by the time you hit about level 30 you are starting to become an in-game god. If you underlevel seriously badly you will die and die and die and stop playing a fantastic game out of frustration.
9) Alchemy is the key to victory and money. Potions STACK!!! Potions sell for good money. Alchemy should not be a major skill - you use it too much and you will level you character horribly fast with Alchemy as a main skill.
10) Custom magic spells are for me the most fun feature in the game. You can do some truly evil things with custom spells. A word of warning though: Chameleon is a game killer - when you get it high enough you are effectively invisible to all the mobs (even when hittting them) and the game becomes a walkthrough. I have a little rule NEVER to use it.
11) OK let me stress it finally - this game is about improving your character by bulking out attributes and skills. It is NOT about improving your character by improving its overall level. Levelling is just a tool.
12) Save Games: Save often. Make proper saves - don't always use the quicksave. THE GAME OFTEN DOES NOT REPORT A FAILURE TO SAVE A GAME - you think you are covered and you are not. The save games get very big. I ran out of disk space once but was able to keep on saving without the game telling me. I lost many hours of progress. That's what happens when you let console programmers loose on a PC The save games can be moved around without problem by windows standard utilities so you can archive off save games from your main save directory if required.
13) I never use "quick travel". It is more realistic to walk ride or teleport everywhere. You explore better and can collect herbs etc. Quicktravel is a sop for console kiddies with the attention span of mayflys. (This may be a step too far for some )
PS: OP you really need an extra gig of RAM - !GB is just not enough these days. 2GB will stop paging and give you a much smoother gaming experience.
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that's what you get for being a filthy thief
I'd highly recommend the game, I got a long period of enjoyment out it - completing the thieves guild, fighters guild, mages guild, dark brotherhood and arena side quests prior to completing the final story quests, not to mention all the various other quests, made it last quite a while
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I think I'm going to trade in the 360 version and get GotY version on PC, there's too many little annoyances that I know are fixed on the PC.
Also... Stealing and sneaking around are what Oblivion and Morrowind are made for.
Also... Stealing and sneaking around are what Oblivion and Morrowind are made for.
I think I'm going to trade in the 360 version and get GotY version on PC, there's too many little annoyances that I know are fixed on the PC.
Also... Stealing and sneaking around are what Oblivion and Morrowind are made for.
remember when stuart killed that guy in morrowind and it came up with some sort of message about how he'd basically screwed the whole game as the storyline couldnt advance anymore, classic
It sucks on the Xbox360 compared to the PC. It lags and takes absolutely ages to load, along with the fact that you can't have any mods installed.
Oblivion + Knights of the Nine + Shivering Isles + Qarl's Texture Pack 3 + some other good mods makes it sooo good
You could spend over 100 hours on the original game, then you've got Knights of the Nine which adds a few hours and then Shivering Isles which adds about 30 hours. You can then downloads certain mods which will add further gameplay (some mods add quests to complete before you can have the armour/house)
Have a browse through the Tesnexus top 100: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/top.php
I recommend getting Oblivion GOTY as it's under £20 at the moment. It comes with both expansions.
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ive got a new comp recently:
dual core e8600@4ghz
4850
8500 ram
bla bla bla
Should be able to turn graphics on full shouldnt i.
Thanks for the help eFFBee sounds complex but i suppose you learn this as u go along which is part of it.Cant wait heard nothing but good things.
dual core e8600@4ghz
4850
8500 ram
bla bla bla
Should be able to turn graphics on full shouldnt i.
Thanks for the help eFFBee sounds complex but i suppose you learn this as u go along which is part of it.Cant wait heard nothing but good things.
That spec should eat Oblivion for breakfast. Note that I play it on a (wait for it) Athlon XP2400+, 2GB RAM, Nvidia factory overclocked 7600GT and it is remarkably fine. I have most settings maxed out. FPS is 30 odd around town and in dungeons but can drop dramatically in the wild - especially in a fight when there's grass about - but I just disable grass for a while when that happens. I am running Windows 2000 which might be better than XP on a low spec PC - not sure though.
I realize my long list of advice means nothing until you play but as soon as you get a few levels into your first character it will all make a LOT of sense. One thing that I didn't bring out clearly is that in order to mess with making the right skills Primary and Secondary you will have to make a CUSTOMIZED character and not go for one of their presets.
Hope you love the game