Xbox 360 defects: an inside history of Microsoft’s video game console woes

pinkacidbootson · 7 Sep 2008 at 16:30

I've had 4 Xbox 360s and only the first one one was faulty, it kept freezing when paying games.
Also had 3 PS3s, first one stopped working and other 2 were fine.
So similar failure rate for me, but Xbox took 3 months to replace compared to 4 days for the PS3. I'd rather have my PS3 break than my Xbox tbh.

Gerard · 7 Sep 2008 at 16:45

Some amazing wording in that article, such as :

Microsoft has still sold more Xbox 360 consoles than Sony to date

You don't say :eek:

atpbx · 7 Sep 2008 at 16:51

Nismo said:
I agree with that, but Soulja never stated that the 360 didn't have issues, just that the ones he has never RROD'd.

I think you've jumped on him thinking he was trying to deny it

No it wasnt a case of that, it was a case of him saying he had 6 and that none of them ever RROD.

Gerard · 7 Sep 2008 at 16:58

We'll probably never know how much of this is true or false, 16% yields on the cpu for a company like ibm seems very low. The article really makes it sound like the 360 was basically bunged together in the shortest time possible and chucked out the door with litte or no testing done.

LordSplodge · 7 Sep 2008 at 17:06

I have a launch console and it is still going strong (it is the only 360 I have owned), however, it doesn't start first time 70% of the time (single red fail) and often when it is cold gives Error 74.

Still it has done this all its life so no real problems here...yet.

Nismo · 7 Sep 2008 at 17:40

atpbx said:
No it wasnt a case of that, it was a case of him saying he had 6 and that none of them ever RROD.

And so what is wrong with that? :confused:

james.miller · 7 Sep 2008 at 17:55

Nismo said:
And so what is wrong with that?

its misleading.

Nismo · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:15

james.miller said:
its misleading.

To who? Everyone knows the 360 has problems, he was just saying that out of the ones he had none of them had RROD.

I fail to see the issue :confused:

james.miller · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:24

crikey.

its misleading because he said none of his 6 failed. he didnt mention untill questioned that he only onwed 4 of them for a few months. why cant you see how thats misleading? lol

Soulja · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:27

james.miller said:
crikey.

its misleading because he said none of his 6 failed. he didnt mention untill questioned that he only onwed 4 of them for a few months. why cant you see how thats misleading? lol

4-8 months = a few? plus 2 that have been used for over a year.

a lot of 360s are known to fail with the 1st few(2-3) months.

james.miller · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:32

Soulja said:
4-8 months = a few? plus 2 that have been used for over a year.

yes, 6 months is not a long time lol.

a lot of 360s are known to fail with the 1st few(2-3) months.

if it were a case of the majority of 360 failing during that time period then you wouldnt have so many older consoles still failing. as somebody already said, age has no bearing on the RROD issues.

Nismo · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:38

james.miller said:
crikey.

its misleading because he said none of his 6 failed. he didnt mention untill questioned that he only onwed 4 of them for a few months. why cant you see how thats misleading? lol

Sorry, but I'll leave it there as I really don't get your point. I didn't find it misleading in the slightest.

He stated that his consoles never RROD'd, which is fact. I don't see what timescale of ownership has to do with that. If he was trying to say that he had 6 consoles which had never failed, thereby denying that the 360 in general had production issues, I could see where you were coming from. Point is he wasn't, which it seems some people have missed or chosen to ignore.

z0mbi3 · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:39

obviously I know time will tell, but do I need to worry about my new premium with hdmi RROD'ing prematurely?

Soulja · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:40

james.miller said:
yes, 6 months is not a long time lol.

if it were a case of the majority of 360 failing during that time period then you wouldnt have so many older consoles still failing. as somebody already said, age has no bearing on the RROD issues.

So if age doesn't matter, why does it matter how long i had my consoles? :confused:

Nismo said:
Sorry, but I'll leave it there as I really don't get your point. I didn't find it misleading in the slightest.

He stated that his consoles never RROD'd, which is fact. I don't see what timescale of ownership has to do with that. If he was trying to say that he had 6 consoles which had never failed, thereby denying that the 360 in general had production issues, I could see where you were coming from. Point is he wasn't, which it seems some people have missed or chosen to ignore.

Exactly

james.miller · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:46

Soulja said:
So if age doesn't matter, why does it matter how long i had my consoles?

i dont see whats confusing about that? point being if a console is going to fail, it could be in 3 weeks, or 3 years, or anywhere between. but if it's going to fail, it WILL fail.

by owning a console for a short period of time, the chance of it failing while you own it is less, but that makes no difference if its destined to fail does it? its still going to do so.

Sorry, but I'll leave it there as I really don't get your point. I didn't find it misleading in the slightest.

He stated that his consoles never RROD'd, which is fact. I don't see what timescale of ownership has to do with that. If he was trying to say that he had 6 consoles which had never failed, thereby denying that the 360 in general had production issues, I could see where you were coming from. Point is he wasn't, which it seems some people have missed or chosen to ignore.

we'll just have to disagree on that one

Soulja · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:54

Surely how often you play makes a bigger difference? Mine was played a lot, almost daily. Yet there could be people who had a 360 for 1.5 years and barely played it. So beacuse they had theres longer does it mean theres will fail?

OpenToSuggestions · 7 Sep 2008 at 18:59

you all think 360s are bad!!
The launch ps2s liked the taste of disks so much it chewed on them frequently.

I had 3 launch ones (v3 iirc) and all died then they gave me a version4. Then that died two years after and I got a version 7 (ish) that is much quieter.

james.miller · 7 Sep 2008 at 19:06

Soulja said:
Surely how often you play makes a bigger difference? Mine was played a lot, almost daily. Yet there could be people who had a 360 for 1.5 years and barely played it. So beacuse they had theres longer does it mean theres will fail?

you'd think so. i dont know if there's any way of proving that. i had one friend left who was still on his original 360. he owned it for about 9 months and probably had 8-10 hours of play a week - not much. it died last month.

now i dont personally know a single person still on their first 360. not one of them, out of the 12 or so who owe 360's. thats horrifically bad, it really is. one of them is on his 5th now.

Margaret · 7 Sep 2008 at 19:10

I'm pretty sure time has an effect, considering it's heat warping the motherboard is it not?

So, the more it's on, the more it will be affected.

Nanoman · 7 Sep 2008 at 19:20

With 3RROD the X-clamp cant retain enough pressure to keep the GPU connected to the motherboard so the solider joints break. Pressue is lost as there is actually a gap between the motherboard and the case + the metal is of such thin/low quality that there is space in which the GPU can be disconnected through heat warping.