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Attention budget buyers HD 4670

Hi there

Got two 4670 in Crossfire, looking rather impressive for the price. They are so quiet as well. :)

One thing for sure ATI/AMD are giving NVIDIA a kicking by releasing actual new products that bring new features and great performance for the price. :)
 
Cyber-Mav said:
that puts it very close to the price of a 9600gso and a 9600gt. going by the review on techpowerup site the 4670 just cant compete at that price point.
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HI there

It only needs match the 9600GSO price, not beat it, as its a better all round product.

Good to see ATI actually releasing newly designed products.

9600GSO is a re-badged 8800GS.
9500GT is a re-badged 8600GT.
9400GT is a re-badged 8500GT.
 
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4670/

just read up on the review on that site. even the 9600gso has a massive lead over the 4650, over double the speed difference in some cases. and 9600gso (768mb version) can be had for 55 quid so if ati manage to price the 4650 under 45 quid then it could provide an option for those who want to spend the least cash possible for some capable gaming.

although 4650's major advantage is the ability to have audio through hdmi without doing some some additional wiring up.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4670/

just read up on the review on that site. even the 9600gso has a massive lead over the 4650, over double the speed difference in some cases. and 9600gso (768mb version) can be had for 55 quid so if ati manage to price the 4650 under 45 quid then it could provide an option for those who want to spend the least cash possible for some capable gaming.

although 4650's major advantage is the ability to have audio through hdmi without doing some some additional wiring up.
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HI there

Two problems with your post:-
1. This thread is about the 4670.
2. The 4650 is not trying to compete with the 9600GSO, it competes with 9500GT. The 4670 competes with 9600GSO!
 
got muddled with the names but yea 4670 looks like its gonna have a tough time in the division its aiming for. and as you say the 4870 competes with the 9600gso, probably in price but from the looks of the review deffo not in performance. can see the 384mb gso hitting framebuffer limitations in some instances but the higher memory version addresses that issue.

the most interesting thing iv heard about the 4670 is that some forums have mentioned an agp version??? now thats something that will really be appealing for some if there is any truth to it.
 
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Cyber-Mav said:
got muddled with the names but yea 4670 looks like its gonna have a tough time in the division its aiming for.

the most interesting thing iv heard bou tthe 4670 is that some forums have mentioned an agp version??? now thats something that will really be appealing for some if there is any truth to it.
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Hi there

Tough, its walking it. Matches 9600GSO for performance on averages, looses some, wins some. It consumes less power, Its quieter, It outputs less heat. Has a lot more features, Direct10.1, HDMI, Sound.

Am sorry the ATI product is better and as its price point is pretty much identical to a 9600GSO its easily the better product. Anybody can see that unless your a fanboy.
 
well gibbo it looks like you did not bother to read the review i posted above.
seems like a typical response though from somone who may have ordered a few of these cards in and needs to ship them out for profit.

very good salesman tactics ;)
 
Cyber-Mav said:
well gibbo it looks like you did not bother to read the review i posted above.
seems like a typical response though from somone who may have ordered a few of these cards in and needs to ship them out for profit.

very good salesman tactics ;)
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Or, the ATI one is better for what you get? :D
 
Cyber-Mav said:
that depends on its price. if its htting the 45 quid mark then it will be a good purchase. im hoping there will be an agp variant. need to replace the x1950pro agp with something quicker.
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It won't be. As i posted earlier, it is already on sale at one retailer for £58. I don't expect it to be any cheaper from here, although it would be nice to be proved wrong.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
well gibbo it looks like you did not bother to read the review i posted above.
seems like a typical response though from somone who may have ordered a few of these cards in and needs to ship them out for profit.

very good salesman tactics ;)
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Hi there

We have not ordered any actually and shall be buying as we need them.

Yes I looked at all the game benchmark results and power consumption charts from that review which shows it looses and wins some.

Performance they are pretty much on par, however feature wise it slam dunks the NVIDIA card.

I am speaking from the position of someone who has looked at both cards and posting my oppinion so your wrong on that point.

Seems you just like to make digs at OcUK to me, or have pointless arguments.
 
Interestingly the review Cyber-Mav posted looked at 2x AA at 1280x1024.

Looking at other reviews I've noticed two points of particular interest (to me anyway) about the comparison between the 9600GSO (8800GS) and the HD 4870.

The HD 4670 has a little bit more trouble with higer resolutions than the 9600GSO (8800GS) as it has the thinner [smaller?] memory bus even if the compression algorithm does make up for it some-what.

The HD 4670 handles higher AA (Anti Aliasing) much better especially at lower resolutions where AA makes much more difference to the image quality.

In conclusion if you're on a 1280x1024 screen (or smaller) and upgrade your card every year or so or don't play newer games the HD 4670 is probably a better buy. If you want a card for your HTPC you might as well wait a month for the HD 4350/4550. Finally if you have a big screen and are skimping on the card you could get a 9600GSO (but I wouldn't recommend it).
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

We have not ordered any actually and shall be buying as we need them.

Yes I looked at all the game benchmark results and power consumption charts from that review which shows it looses and wins some.

Performance they are pretty much on par, however feature wise it slam dunks the NVIDIA card.

I am speaking from the position of someone who has looked at both cards and posting my oppinion so your wrong on that point.

Seems you just like to make digs at OcUK to me, or have pointless arguments.
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not making digs at you or ocuk, but looking at ocuk's website, they dont sell the 9600gso which kind of links to why you would be saying the 4670 is the better card since ocuk dont have stock of the 9600gso so will have to do by with boosting 4670 sales.

as for features you say the 4670 has more, i see it having less with no cuda support or hardware physics capabilities. but i guess you cant mention that since it would have a detrimental effect on sales.

Gibbo said:
I am speaking from the position of someone who has looked at both cards and posting my oppinion so your wrong on that point.
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your also speaking from the position of a sales rep so your opinion is going to be swayed towards the products you sell or will be selling. if ocuk did sell the 9600gso quite possibly your stance on the products would be different.

either way something id be interested in is an agp version, gibbo you may be in a better position to have a chat with the card manufacturers and see if there is any truth to the 4670 agp card being a possibility for us.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
not making digs at you or ocuk, but looking at ocuk's website, they dont sell the 9600gso which kind of links to why you would be saying the 4670 is the better card since ocuk dont have stock of the 9600gso so will have to do by with boosting 4670 sales.

as for features you say the 4670 has more, i see it having less with no cuda support or hardware physics capabilities. but i guess you cant mention that since it would have a detrimental effect on sales.


your also speaking from the position of a sales rep so your opinion is going to be swayed towards the products you sell or will be selling. if ocuk did sell the 9600gso quite possibly your stance on the products would be different.

either way something id be interested in is an agp version, gibbo you may be in a better position to have a chat with the card manufacturers and see if there is any truth to the 4670 agp card being a possibility for us.
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Hi there

When the 9600GSO came out I actively posted on these forums saying we would not be stocking it. The reason behind this was due to it simply been a re-badged 8800GS.

Secondly yes 9600GSO does support PhysX and CUDA as do all 8 and 9 series GPU's. However a 9600GSO is not really capable of playing a game with PhysX enabled which kinda destroys its advantage there as it simply does not have the horsepower to play games with decent FPS with PhysX enabled.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
well gibbo it looks like you did not bother to read the review i posted above.
seems like a typical response though from somone who may have ordered a few of these cards in and needs to ship them out for profit.

very good salesman tactics ;)
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Or someone who actually read the reviews - Anandtech says the exact same thing and this card would be great for a rig that must be lowpower and still have some very basic gaming capabilities.
 
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